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Looks like the tail of He219 WrkNr. 290124, and another with Stmkzch 'BH'?
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Hello Tony,
I think that both of these He 219’s were found at Fl.Horst Münster-Handorf (51.992029 7.737635). The He 219 coded __+BH may actually be He 219 A-2 (WNr. 290059) which was coded G9+BH and was found abandoned there. I suspect that He 219 A-2 (WNr. 290124) was also found at Fl.Horst Münster-Handorf. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Dear Rudi, the third photo of your today’s catch shows a brand new but already derelict Bf 109 K-4, either seen at Amberg-Schafhof or at Cham-Michelsdorf.
Much indebted! Marc |
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I concur, Franck ! Hence seen at Cham-Michelsdorf, possibly W.Nr. 335 093.
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The link in #1246 doesn't work for me. Do I need special permission to access it? I am logged in at Flickr.
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Same here. I get the following message:
"It appears you don’t have permission to view this photo or video." |
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RudiS, Roger,
Will look into this issue once home on Friday. Cheers Marc |
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Hello again RudiS,
This aircraft has probably been destroyed by its owners, and displays the technical details of a Bf 109 G-6 or early G-14: lower oil filler hatch, straight port DB 605 A engine bearer, old-style heavy canopy, and small upper wing bumps. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Does anyone have an ID on the Me 262? Could it be white 22 of JV 44 found at Salzburg?
https://fm0lua.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-GUERN...cAAOSwXclbYK3a https://fm2mla.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German...rt=nc&_ipg=200 |
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Thank you once again, Rudi.
Yes, the wooden tripole in front and the pile of sandbags to the starboard side are seen in other pictures of "white 22". Jim |
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Thanks Jim. Very much appreciated.
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#1252 and the whole album was sold for $282 to a dealer
The dealer now offers the same photo for the "bargain" price of $500 here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/728-WWII-10...IAAOSw1iFbZQ3q Interestingly, the caption is shown as well and states that it was photographed at Ansbach. So, possibly a EGK(J) machine? |
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Is is possible that the photo in #1262 shows a late Bf 109G or K from JG 26?
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Post 1262: this late war Bf 109 G displays a two coloured RVB band compatible with JG 5 and JG 301. The latter is well documented in the ETO.
Thanks, RudiS ! Marc |
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Ju 88 WNr 330177 VbKz ??+GL in Paris. Can anyone can ID this a/c?
https://fm1plw.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...rt=nc&_ipg=200 |
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Re #1265-Jim Crow collection has another image of this wreckage with the location identified as Bron/Lyon. No other info.
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The reverse of the photo shows that it has been removed from an album and the caption torn. "…is, France" is legible. So, we need somewhere else where there were both a Ju 88 S-3 and an Me 410. In France there are few possibilities for the latter type since the only ones still there by D-Day—so far as I recall—would have belonged to II./KG 51, 1.(F)/121 or 1.(F)/33 and none of those units had very many. Ju 88 S were more common of course. |
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That is strange looking 'G'. To me looks more like a '5' or possibly a 'S'.
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Enlarging it, I think it's a stencilled G but I wouldn't say so with certainty. |
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GL or 5L. A most unusual, to me, tail marking. It is different from the three part transport codes.
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The Ju 88S-3 was most likely an aircraft from 3./KG 30:
- the unit was equipped with the S-3 from June until August 1944 - the unit was based at Le Culot in Belgium, they flew some missions from Paris-Orly during early August - since 1943 the last two digits of the unit code were repeated at the top of the rudder by that unit |
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Thanks everyone for trying to identify the unit of the Ju 88 in #1265.
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Hi RudiS,
Your post #1273 illustrates an abandoned engineless Bf 109 K-4. Among its defining characteristics are: “K” wheel doors, the 4x sockets for its DB 605 D electrical connectors are barely visible on its firewall, large upper wing bumps, and open “K” tailwheel doors. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Hello RudiS, and thanks again for your hard work,
Regarding Post #1276, unless I am mistaken this photo was taken at Fl.Horst Landau-Isar (R-69, near 48.725000 12.695833) and that is Bf 109 G-12 22+ white visible in the background. Interestingly, 22+ white features the KG55 Griffon crest on its port cowling. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Hi Steve,
Effectively, on other available picture, the Arado is visible in far background. Another much more interesting detail, if ever, is the fact that code number "Weisse 22" is situated at the right of the "black" cross; reading from left to right. I.e. the cross on starboard is situated more aft on fuselage (or more forward on port) due to lesser space left by G-12 canopy. Regards, Franck. PS; This feature raising a doubt concerning application of unit markings on that period machines for which only one side is known ;) |
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Correction: Landau-Isar is actually an Einsatzhafen.
Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS, Germany, Spring 1945.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ph...itleDesc=0%7C0 Cheers Marc |
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