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Snautzer

5th April 2018 12:27

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Hi Larry, see the resemblance on this tower protecting a railroad. A little bit different one in mg34 but basic design looks the same. Wich make sence because the firing of the Flak gun would cause quite some stress on the woodwork construction.

Mg34 tower https://www.ebay.de/itm/M278-WH-Flak...gAAOSw~OdVeqFV

I have read that Germans also uses tactics in combatting the attacking planes post d-day by using the mobile units in ever changing places around these towers and other dug in positions. These could really spoil a low flying attackers day.

Another read: Flak Facts a Brief History of-Flak and Flak Intelligence in the Ninth Air Force 9-may 1945

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Snautzer

5th April 2018 12:48

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Autograph-jagdflieger-jg27-Hans-Joachim-Marseille https://www.ebay.de/itm/Autogramm-Au...AAAOSwM99avKzt
Radar Wurzburg, Nanterre 1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ra...gAAOSwL9pau6YT
Luftwaffe-Flak-Kommandogerat-unter-der-Tarnkuppel (camo tent) -Saarbrucken https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...0AAOSw~3pacaVe
How was this made?? Looks like a scene from Il2 game Flak-Zielubungen-auf-Flugzeuge-in-Holland- https://www.ebay.de/itm/7-x-Foto-Luf...0AAOSwKQ9Z8Hu4

Larry deZeng

5th April 2018 15:25

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Snautzer - thanks for the additional information in your Post #321, above. The comment about the photo interpreters not being able to tell dummy and unoccupied Flak positions from those that were occupied and active is too true. Most of the Luftwaffe aerial photos for the Eastern Front airfields were taken from 7,500 - 8,000 meters and while all or most of the Flak positions are shown, the annotations made on the print by the interpreters never provide information stating which were occupied and which unoccupied. Flak towers were a rarity in the East, too, but rooftops on the airfields were definitely used.

For every measure initiated by the Allies, the Germans came up with a countermeasure and vice versa.

Thanks again,

L.

edwest2

5th April 2018 17:30

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I have seen photos of light flak guns on rooftops on structurally suitable buildings, on flatbed trucks and on rail cars. One interesting innovation was a large concrete cylinder on a flatbed rail car with a raised wooden floor that had additional ammo stored under it.

Ed

Note: There was a post here some years ago that started with the premise of the "myth" of wooden flak towers.

Snautzer

5th April 2018 18:15

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What suprised me the German let even locomotives run by itself to attract allied flyers. As an ambush. I can make above document available to you.

edwest2

5th April 2018 20:35

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