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Faenor 2nd March 2025 06:42

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Hi all, looking for more info about this P-47:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15672937504...90.c101224.m-1

Faenor

Alex Smart 3rd March 2025 16:57

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Post 3331
"Miss Alaynious"

Faenor 4th March 2025 09:43

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smart (Post 343375)
Post 3331
"Miss Alaynious"


True, but idea, if this is plane of 4th FG or different unit

Faenor

Buckeye30 5th March 2025 12:27

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Faenor. The pilot standing right could be Capt. Alfred Markel (334FS and HQ), the artwork and star are typical for 4FG late 43 - early 44. He flew a P-47C QP--M but lost with another pilot. This looks like an early "D".
Regards
Nick

Faenor 6th March 2025 09:10

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye30 (Post 343410)
Faenor. The pilot standing right could be Capt. Alfred Markel (334FS and HQ), the artwork and star are typical for 4FG late 43 - early 44. He flew a P-47C QP--M but lost with another pilot. This looks like an early "D".
Regards
Nick

Nick THANK YOU for the info and confirmation of my idea!

Best regards

Faenor

Buckeye30 6th March 2025 18:41

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Sorry Faenor I don't think it's 4FG; I found another copy of the same photo, the last 3 numbers are 335 or 835. This is a D-21 or earlier as it has a Curtiss prop. There's a B-17 in the background so maybe a bomber base. The back of the photo says
"Passed for Personal Use only. Not for Publication. Intelligence Office.
RALPH G. PLA****
Capt. Air Corps" .. Dated Sept. 1944



A little research on the name I think.
Regards
Nick

Faenor 7th March 2025 06:48

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye30 (Post 343423)
Sorry Faenor I don't think it's 4FG; I found another copy of the same photo, the last 3 numbers are 335 or 835. This is a D-21 or earlier as it has a Curtiss prop. There's a B-17 in the background so maybe a bomber base. The back of the photo says
"Passed for Personal Use only. Not for Publication. Intelligence Office.
RALPH G. PLA****
Capt. Air Corps" .. Dated Sept. 1944



A little research on the name I think.
Regards
Nick


Hi Nick, probably yes - because this maschine is without guns - maybe is from some Bomb Group and used like liaison plane/training plane - we have more similar cases.

But my ide about the 4th FG plane:
1) The lady is in the blue circle - same style like by machines P-47D 42-8659 or P-47C 41-6183 (both 336th FS)
2) same position of this emblem like by other planes from 4th FG, if you compare is with others group
3) 334th FS have more planes named "Miss xxx" - example famous Miss Dallas 42-7876 or Miss Plainfield 42-7945

So maybe this plane is originally from the 4th FG, or I´m completelly wrong :-)

But still thank you and have a great day!

Faenor

Buckeye30 7th March 2025 17:41

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
One thing for sure, the plane in the second photo is well-maintained, cleaned and polished, unusual for that date (Sept. 44). No other markings apart from artwork and star (ie. none overpainted if she was with a FG). Also she still has the white nose and tail bands ordered in Feb. 1943; the visible last 3 of the serial (335, 535 or 835) fit 11 "D"s from D-RE to D-20 but couldn't find any connections to 4th FG. Many of Don Allen's paintings in 334th were on the centre cowl panel which could be transferred to a later plane, and also with a disc background. There were 7 known P-47s in the 4th FG with "Miss" in the name. But this style of lettering can be seen also in other FGs like 355th and 356th, but not widespread.
The unusual name is a reference to "Miscellanious" ie. a mixture of different things, maybe a P-47 and B-17s....it's a big airfield so probably a bomb group; unfortunately no markings visible on the B-17. Possibly a senior pilot flew her hence the extra-clean appearance.

Regards
Nick

edwest2 7th March 2025 19:35

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
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