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Hello Rudi and Marc,
First, thank you both for your hard work and dedication.
Regarding the photograph of the Ju 88 G-6 visible behind the Bf 110 G-4 night fighter (Posts #1357 and #1360), while looking much like Ju 88 G-6 (WNr. 622910) U5+BT, V./NJG2, found abandoned at Neubiberg, I concur that this is instead Ju 88 G-6 (WNr. 62089x) G9+BT, 9./NJG1, found at Fritzlar.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

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Dear Steve,

You’re most welcome ! I seize this opportunity for your always highly appreciated precise and matter of fact informations.

Cheers
Marc

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Ju 88 WNr 430267. Does anyone have more info on this a/c?
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His there RudiS

W.Nr. 430267 is a Ju 88 D-1. Alas no other information on that machine.

Your second photo does illustrate Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr 460 408, "Gelbe 4", Gefr. Georg Kuhr, 3./JG 76, shot down 29 September 1944 near Nijmegen, as ascertained by the bump in its spinner, also to be seen on this photo (scroll down): http://505rct.org/album2/hinchliff_b.asp

Cheers
Marc

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Thanks Marc. I hope someone else has more info to share on this Ju 88.

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A fabulous shot, RudiS!

We have here Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 151 934 "Gelbe 13" seen with the JG 300 RVB tailband; as it sports the short horizontal black bar of JGr. 300, ordered if memory serves me well in April 1945 for regrouping II. and III./JG 300.

Location for this rare shot, possibly stemming from Carl Hildebrand's collection, is unknown so far. JGr. 300 machines were found at Langensalza, München-Riem, Ainring and Salzburg by war's end. Given the open and flat country to be seen, München-Riem would be a good candidate.

Thanks again, RudiS !
Marc

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Great find indeed!
WNr. 151934 was a Bf 109 G-10/R6 of a batch of a/c taken over on 25. March 1945 directly at the Erla-Auslieferungslager at Leipzig. III/JG 300 took over more than 20 a/c that day.

And again that elusive black Balken on the Rumpfband. IMHO JGr 300 is a very remote possibility only, but who knows?

Carl

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Carl,

Thanks for your precision regarding W.Nr. 151934. Regarding the touchy JG 300 - JGr. 300 issue, we have all told seven machines documented photographically so far sporting the short horizontal bar regarded as the specific JGr. 300 markings :

1. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr unknown "Schwarze 1", JGr. 300, location unknown, Germany, May 1945. Source: Collection James V. Crow via Broken Eagles Bf 109 G/K, part II, Hildebrandt 1989, p. 3.

2. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 6", JGr 300, Neubiberg, Germany, May 1945. Source: Ebay auction, August 2012.

3. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 49. .06 "Schwarzer Winkel", JGr 300, location unknown, Germany, May 1945. Source: Ebay auction, July 2012.

4. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 150 816 "Schwarze 4", JGr 300, Langensalza, June 1945. Source: LEMB Forum, published in Forsyth 2004, Jagdwaffe colours, Volume five section three, Defending the Reich 1944-1945, p. 274.

5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown, "Blaue 2", Fw. Josef Umminger, 16./JG 300 with JGr 300 horizontal bar, Buchau, 8 May 1945. Source: Collection Hesse, published in Luftwaffe im Focus Spezial no 3, Photo 60.

6. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 1", JGr 300, Germany, after 16 April 1945. Source: ebay.de, November 2007.

7. Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 151 934 "Gelbe 13", found this morning.

Not much indeed, but enough to start the ball rolling.

Cheers
Marc

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The two Do 335 photos may be copies as they have been published before in various publications:

https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall.../captured-a-1/

The Fw 190 Luftflotte 4 is new to me.

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Note the Me262 "Weisse 26" in background. Pity, still no place indication.
Regards,
Franck.

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Does anyone know the WNr of this Me 262?

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I see you need a little help Rudi:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ht=Me262+Italy

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Thanks Franck.

The same seller that has the Ju 52 color photo for sale also put the following 2 photos on eBay:
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https://bwqpga.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

I didn't post them here because they are modern repro's.

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You're welcome Rudi.

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A bit of Photoshop adjustment of levels on the tail and you get 11053…

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Yes. I had contacted the seller but he told me that he can't read the last digit either. This is what he sent me:
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Hence my question in post # 818

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Post #818 ???
I understand your difficulties, then :)
I gave you a TOCH link with suggestions in last two posts:

110530 Call sign NH+MF. Me 262 A-1a On 6 February 1945, an unknown pilot of III./EJG 2 was forced to make an emergency landing north-east of Landshut due to the engines catching fire while on a training flight. Damage to the aircraft was estimated at 70 per cent

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Sorry, my mistake Franck. I meant post # 1376. And I did see your post with the link. Thanks for that one.

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Hello Roger,

The Fw-190 of the Luftflotte 4 is a Fw-190 F-8 Yellow 11 from II SG10.

Best regards,
Lumabe

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Hello Lumabe,

thank you. Are there other photos known of this aircraft? I faintly remember another photo that shows more of the starboard side, but I couldn’t find it anymore.

Thanks.
Roger

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Rudi,

The high resolution pics you've posted of that Me 262, "White 26," are stunning.

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Yes, but unfortunately the last digit of the WNr isn't readable. It would be nice if it could be confirmed that this is indeed 110530.

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Hello Snautzer,
Post #1389 - Unless I am mistake, this is the often-photographed Hs 129 B-2 (WNr. 141407) St.Kz. PH+UQ, probably from Fliegerzielgeschwader 3, and found abandoned damaged at Frankfurt-Rebstock after 45/05/08.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

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RF+GI Ju 52 3m g6e, WNr 7441, built in February 1942, listed with BFS 4 from May to October 1942

Regards
RolandF

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Thanks Roland. Very much appreciated.

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What a superb find.
Unless Bad Toltz can be confirmed, I believe that the Fw 190 D-9 is Fieseler-Kassel-built (WNr. 6006xx) <57+ whiteD-9, found abandoned at Einsatzhafen II Schongau, Germany.
Respectfilly,
Steve Sheflin

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Hi Rudi,

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

From your post #1394, I think I can make out the werknummer 110x86 on the tail of the Me 262 at Innsbruck-Hotting with the red tail tip.

much obliged,

Jim

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"Rote 1" ; My guess is 110188 :)
For sure it will be readable on original.
...
five pics of "Rote 1". 2 pics of "Weisse 12" and one of WNr.500490.

Thanks Rudi.

Franck.

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Unfortunately the seller does not ship to Belgium so I can't ask him what the WNr is. Maybe a resident from the USA can.

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Great photos, thanks for posting. Rare photos of the D-9 "White 52" with R4M rockets. As Steve points out ,found at Shongau and these shots illustrate the typical Fieseler yellow under cowlings on their D-9s.
Cheers, Jerry

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The "small German plane" in post #1394 appears to have an emblem. Does anyone know it?


Thank you, Rudi.




Ed