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ouidjat 30th October 2018 18:50

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 259947)
Unfortunately the seller does not ship to Belgium so I can't ask him what the WNr is. Maybe a resident from the USA can.

Neither in Italy !!! Grrrr...
Maybe Dan can do it ? Dan ? :)

RudiS 31st October 2018 12:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Snautzer 1st November 2018 13:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Ju188 along road https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Orig-Sn...8AAOSwsO5b2mKY
  2. He111 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Orig-Sn...8AAOSw~atb2mIg

RudiS 1st November 2018 14:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Richey4Real 1st November 2018 22:31

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The 109 E is E4 WNr 1480 Stab II/JG3 Oblt Franz Von Werra, shot down05 09 40 Love’s Farm,Marden,Kent.
And the 156 is HB, AOC 2TAF, AVM Harry Broadhurst.

RudiS 1st November 2018 23:38

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks for the info, Richey. Very much appreciated.

RudiS 2nd November 2018 12:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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RodM 2nd November 2018 12:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Post # 1407 by RudiS:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photo-W...s/392164876926

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photo-W...e/253961107367

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photo-W...t/392164873864

photographed beside Fritzlar airfield, since the derelicts include Bf110G-4/R3 W.Nr. 160128 ( G9+HT) of 9./NJG1...

The Junkers Ju88G-1 beside 160128 (G9+HT) is W.Nr. 714401 (based on other photographs of the site), formerly 3C+FN with 5./NJG4. II./NJG4 transferred the aircraft to the Air Ministry Works Inspectorate on 26 February 1945, so it went off unit strength.

Cheers

Rod

canonne 3rd November 2018 16:51

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes / About this Me 262
 
Bonjour,

The seller of this photo wrote : “A Me 262 in a wood between Nancy and Toul » (Lorraine area / North- East of France ….). No date. Many graffitis on the nose of the a/c.
Who could help me to know more about this abandoned aircraft ?
Thanking you

Phil

Roger Gaemperle 3rd November 2018 17:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Phil,

That is W.Nr. 111755 found abandoned at the Kuno assembly line in the forest near Burgau in the forest Scheppacher Forst between Zusmarshausen and Burgau.

Roger

RudiS 3rd November 2018 17:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
#1408: Thanks for identifying these, Rod. Very much appreciated.

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Marc-André Haldimann 4th November 2018 21:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A bonanza of Pilsen airfield, May 1945:


1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 534 "Gelbe 25", III./KG(J) 55, Pilsen, May or June 1945. Beware: scan is reversed.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916603

2. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 534 "Gelbe 25", KG(J) 55, Pilsen, May 1945.
Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916602

3. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 46. … (?) "Schwarze 20", 6./EJG 1, Pilsen, May 1945. Source:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801914125

4. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 633 "Schwarze 28", 6./EJG 1, Pilsen, May 1945. Source: eBay auction.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801914123

5. Ju 87 G-2 W.Nr. 494 200, Pilsen, May 1945. Notice in the background, beyond the second Ju 87, Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 633 "Schwarze 28", 6./EJG 1. Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801742135

6. Ju 87 G-2 W.Nr. 494 200, Pilsen, May 1945. Notice in the background, beyond the second Ju 87, Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 534 "Gelbe 25", III./KG(J) 55. Source:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916604

7. Ju 87 G-2 W.Nr. 494 200, Pilsen, May 1945. Notice in the background, beyond the second Ju 87, Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 534 "Gelbe 25", III./KG(J) 55. Source:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916602

8. Si 204, He 111 H, Ar 96 and Fw 190, Pilsen, May 1945. Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916700

Possibly Pilsen ?

1. Ju 88 G-1. Source : http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801914122

2. Ju 88 D. Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801914132

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 4th November 2018 21:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Location unknown:

1. Fw 190 D-9 "Weisse 2", II./JG 2 ? Notice the wreck of Bf 109 G-10 "Weisse 10" in the background.
Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916699

2. Fw 190 D-9 "Weisse 2", II./JG 2 ?
Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916518

3. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 10", 1./NJG 11 (?), location unknown, Germany, Spring 1945. with thanks to Franck Benoîton and Anders Hjortsberg, over on Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, FB, for noticing the exhaust shrouds pointing towards a possible NJG 11 machine.
Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916698

Cheers
Marc

Maciej Góralczyk 5th November 2018 02:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 260234)
Location unknown:

1. Fw 190 D-9 "Weisse 2", II./JG 2 ? Notice the wreck of Bf 109 G-10 "Weisse 10" in the background.
Source: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801916699

The wreck in the background is not 'Weisse 10', but the Stab machine seen here:
https://abload.de/img/s-l1600284fkt.jpg
https://abload.de/img/s-l1600kodzo.jpg
Source: old ebay auctions

Note the distinctive shape of the patches on the fuselage side, under the windscreen, they're the same as on Worthpoint photo, which, considering the worse condition of both the 109 and 190, may have been taken during in fall 1945 or even later.

The D-9 is of course 'Weisse 12' W.Nr. 600xx6 (600646?) discussed here some time ago.

David E. Brown 5th November 2018 05:01

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Marc,

The Ju88G-1 in post #1412 is "9W+ge.AL", WNr.714691 of 3.I.NJG 101 found at Pilsen.

Cheers,

David

Marc-André Haldimann 5th November 2018 11:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciej Góralczyk (Post 260244)
The wreck in the background is not 'Weisse 10', but the Stab machine seen here:
https://abload.de/img/s-l1600284fkt.jpg
https://abload.de/img/s-l1600kodzo.jpg
Source: old ebay auctions

Note the distinctive shape of the patches on the fuselage side, under the windscreen, they're the same as on Worthpoint photo, which, considering the worse condition of both the 109 and 190, may have been taken during in fall 1945 or even later.

The D-9 is of course 'Weisse 12' W.Nr. 600xx6 (600646?) discussed here some time ago.

Maciej,

I concur, thanks for your input. Fw 190 D-9 W.Nr. 600646 was found at Babenhausen according to A.I.2 (g)/131/I Air Min. In the same location we have also three Bf 109 G-14's (W.Nr. 413723, 781292 and a "400232" which is clearly an error). Location for this shot is thus probably Babenhausen.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 5th November 2018 11:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David E. Brown (Post 260256)
Marc,

The Ju88G-1 in post #1412 is "9W+ge.AL", WNr.714691 of 3.I.NJG 101 found at Pilsen.

Cheers,

David

Many thanks, David for IDeing Ju 88 G-1 W.Nr. 714691 at Pilsen. Much appreciated.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 5th November 2018 13:10

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Modeldad 5th November 2018 21:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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[quote=Marc-André Haldimann;260233]A bonanza of Pilsen airfield, May 1945:

3. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 46. … (?) "Schwarze 20", 6./EJG 1, Pilsen, May 1945. Source:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...wii-1801914125

Any information on the 109 in the back. Appears overall 76 with just dark gray on the top of the nose

Vince Malfara 5th November 2018 22:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hello all
Regarding the post #1394 and the Me262's. There is another photo of the Me262 at Innsbruck "Red 1" from Pinterest. photo inserted.
Sorry I have been away for some time and hope to be back more often.
Hope it hasn't been mentioned before. Sorry if it has.

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/431571576761452817/

Kind Regards

Vince...

RudiS 6th November 2018 13:02

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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S Sheflin 6th November 2018 15:38

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Good morning, Rudi.
Regarding Post #1421 lower, this is one of several destroyed Bf 109s abandoned at Bad Wörishofen, Germany.

Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

RudiS 6th November 2018 16:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks for the info, Steve. Very much appreciated.

Marc-André Haldimann 6th November 2018 19:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 260323)
Good morning, Rudi.
Regarding Post #1421 lower, this is one of several destroyed Bf 109s abandoned at Bad Wörishofen, Germany.

Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Further to those Bf 109's, I./JG 101 was stationed by war's end at Bad Wörishofen. Fine photos of their machines from the Karl Engelmaier collection are published in Jerry Crandall's Fw 190 Dora opus, Vol. 2, p. 39 and 45.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 6th November 2018 19:53

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Marc. Very much appreciated.

RudiS 7th November 2018 15:42

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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RudiS 8th November 2018 12:51

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Snautzer 9th November 2018 14:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...&postcount=696

Ed West found these gems

#696 1 post me262 wrknr 11755
#696 2 post me262 hanger Messerschmitt plant
#696 3 post me262 2x number 5
#696 4 post me262 wrknr visible
#696 5 post me262 Innsbruck mountains
#696 5 post Bf109 late model wreck

RudiS 11th November 2018 03:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Snautzer 11th November 2018 13:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
By Ed West here http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...&postcount=703 :
  1. Bf109 late, Nordhausen Germany 1945 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...aft-1818625215
  2. Bf109, He111 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...rman-416370858
  3. Ar234 A group of ten official, original WWII photographs of German Arado 234 jet aircraft. Photos show aircraft from Kampfgeschwader 76 in various states of disrepair/destruction https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...wwii-440339053
  4. He111 VH+PW Kaufbeuren https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...man-1868247717

Snautzer 11th November 2018 13:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ed West here http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...&postcount=710 :
  1. He162 yellow 4, Ju188, Bu181 Bf109 Me163 late July 1945 Kassel https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...res-1926154487
  2. Ju87 wrknr visable https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...affe-248989780
  3. Ju88 Wreck wrknr 713639 St Dizier 1944 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...nes-1888211142
  4. Bf109 late https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...09-s-152376845
  5. Ju52 A7+HL LUFTVERKEHRSGRUPPE RANGSDORF https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...man-1878237421
  6. Ju88 Nightfighter https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...man-1878237404
  7. Bu181 Gablingen, Germany in July 1945 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...wwii-404328799
  8. Bf109 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...diers-53048119
  9. Bf109 group yellow 25, yellow 12 1945 Germany https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...rman-119399651
  10. Ju88 Nightfighter Me410 (on eBay before) october 1945 Bad Wildingen https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...u-88-152066687

RudiS 13th November 2018 12:12

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Marc-André Haldimann 13th November 2018 15:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hello Snautzer and Ed West,

for no. 9, post 1431: this is Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 534 "Gelbe 25", III./KG(J) 55 Greif, Pilsen, Summer 1945. All the worthpoint.com finds are former eBay auctions, this one being held in late January 2018.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 16th November 2018 13:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Marc-André Haldimann 16th November 2018 15:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Dear RudiS,

What a good find ! Another machine from a tactical recce unit, "Weisse 1", "N5+AH", NAGr. Bromberg, deployed by war's end at Bayreuth Bindlach. We have here either a Bf 109 G-6/R2 or a G-8, camouflage being inconclusive to decide which variant.

Since you provided us with another shot of "Weisse 1" in post Nr. 1159, and thanks to Franck Benoiton and David Weiss over on Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, FB, location is now known to be Schongau, 65 km south-west of Munich; the church to be seen on the background is the Sankt Michael Basilica in Altenstadt-Schongau.

Thanks !

Marc

Blueberry 16th November 2018 16:06

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-14/AS (Gelbe 6) of 3./JG 4, Eisenach-Kindel, April 1945:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Messerschmit...5GA:rk:46:pf:0

S Sheflin 16th November 2018 21:35

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Blueberry,

Thank you for posting this fine photo (Post #1436). However, the merest corner of a IV.-Gruppe wave is visible in the photo, probably making this a 15./IV./JG 4 aircraft.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann 16th November 2018 21:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueberry (Post 260800)
Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-14/AS (Gelbe 6) of 3./JG 4, Eisenach-Kindel, April 1945:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Messerschmit...5GA:rk:46:pf:0

The usual eBay seller strikes again with selling NARA photos “lifted” on the web...

Marc

Merlin 16th November 2018 21:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
What you see is the forward edge of the horizontal tailplane. Aircraft of IV./JG 4 had the wave painted over the black-white-black fuselage bands.

S Sheflin 16th November 2018 23:24

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Gerhard, good information there.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin


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