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Brian 30th June 2007 19:07

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
Hi Tom

Are you able to list the other friendly fire incidents listed in 'Air Power'? It would be interesting for me to learn if I have all recorded.

Cheers
Brian

Nokose 30th June 2007 19:32

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
Sorry about that it's 11Apr43. If you use a translator and go to www.aces.boom.ru you can read the story under this ace.

Juha 4th July 2007 17:47

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
Hello again
You very probably know this already but just in case. Japanese pilots in P-40s against JAAF's Sally IIs
http://www.j-aircraft.com/captured/c...ptured_p40.htm

Kippis
Juha

Brian 4th July 2007 21:15

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
Thanks Nokose

Hi Juha, yes I do have this but thanks for remembering me!

Cheers
Brian

Laurent Rizzotti 18th July 2007 17:49

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
B-17 bombing the wrong side of the fronline

22 February 1943, Tunisia, late stage of the Kasserine battle:

The hide-and-seek weather also hamstrung Strategic Air Force. Out of the missions airborne, three returned their bombs, and a wandering formation of B-17's, lost in the clouds, strayed 100 miles north and bombed friendly
Souk-el-hba.

Source:
http://www.ibiblio.net/hyperwar////AAF/II/AAF-II-5.html

Laurent Rizzotti 20th July 2007 21:28

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
"Useful" friendly fire !!!

Around the 10th of October 1943 Wensleydale was ordered to first find and then escort the Free French Submarine Minerve (P26) back to port. Ken England remembers that "the submarine was transmitting the morse letter 'A' on a known frequency and by manning our MF D/F set we were able to get a fix on the sub's position". This submarine had been a victim of 'friendly fire' and was unable to dive. A Liberator, piloted by Mick Ensor spotted a submarine about 300 miles west of Brest. The submarine was attacked with eight 5"rockets. One 25lb rocket entered the starboard side just below the external torpedo tubes. Two men were killed. One by the rocket head and another by a fragment of the pressure hull. The submarine was off course and not reported in the area. Pilot Mick Ensor (see Enser's Endevour, by Vincent Orange) was cleared of any blame. The damage to Minerve proved very useful to navy intelligence. Many photographs were taken of the damage, angle of entry etc. The projectile was said to be virtually undamaged, but was unfortunately thrown overboard as it was considered likely to explode.

Source:
http://www.hmswensleydale.co.uk/1943.htm

Laurent Rizzotti 21st July 2007 00:28

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How to consider this one: an Allied ship mistaking an Allied aircraft for an Axis ships...

Walrus X9529
19? The aircraft was acquired by the Royal Air Force (RAF).
19? The aircraft was allocated to 293 Squadron.
10Sep1944 The aircraft was sunk while taxying by a Royal Navy MTB which mistook it for a German E-Boat.

Source:
http://www.cnapg.org/walrus.htm

NUPPOL 26th August 2007 15:54

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
2 instances:
Reportably two of KG 200 aircraft-B-17 "Punchboard" #42-39974 and B-24 "Sunshine" #42-52106 were lost to German AA 6 April 1945
In Edward Jablonski's "Airwar" Ernest Shipman 31stFG/307th Figther Sq {P-51 Pilot} shot down by P-38 july 30.1944 {Reference only}

Brian 26th August 2007 16:20

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
Thanks Laurent and Nuppol - most interesting.

Laurent - still hoping to hear from you!!

Cheers
Brian

Nokose 28th August 2007 16:10

Re: Friendly fire WWII
 
23Apr41 Greece
Three Ju-88's of I/LG1 fire on a Bf-109E of Stab/JG77 flown by Ofw Erwin Sawallisch. Sawallisch's Bf-109 is hit and he returns fire killing one of the crew of one Ju-88. Sawallisch is then able to force land at his base at Krumovo. (Reference: Air War For Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete 1940-41 by C. Shore and B. Cull w/ N. Malizia)


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