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brewerjerry 25th July 2009 21:14

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Hi
Flypast thread suggests hispano suiza engine.
cheers
Jerry

Junkers88A1 25th July 2009 21:33

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i think its a Wright "Tempest" E-4 water-cooled engine after looking closer..
new on the website here.. and hi there chrille :) hehe

but the tail is wat i think a 100% correct new find.. allthough this engine is something else..first i dident look to close as i thought it was a jumo but after looking more closely i started to wonder..
and to me it looks like this engine..

Junkers88A1 25th July 2009 21:36

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Originally Posted by philippe1 (Post 88544)
hello,
I have to agree with Mr Olrog,
I have been a few years ago to Norway on expedition and have removed the carter of a jumo 211 , the oil was still there and it looks like the engine was putted there yesterday. even parts still laying with their color on.
the only thing was that fuselage parts in direct sun the color was less and faded.
those who are giving doubts to the reality of those pictures i have to asume they never did or visited wrecks.
Its also depending like a reader is telling the cercomstanses were its located .
if you would find it high in the mountains or high altitude it will be less coroded than close to the sea where salty winds will give a negative influence to the alu.
anyway , I know what i saw that time ....
kind reg
phil


i assume you delivered this part to the norwegian armed forces museum as its strictly forbidden to steal parts from wrecks in Norway, and they belong to the norwegian armed forces museum. If not you are actually confirming a theft here

Junkers88A1 25th July 2009 21:46

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and just to show..this is the camshaft from a Jumo 211 that has been 60 years in the mountain..the badely corroded magnesium top has been removed and the oil has been wiped off.. looks like brand new. but it all depends on how its been laying and how its been preserved
this Jumo 211 is in the storage at Gardermoen Aircraft collection and are used as a spare engine for the restoration of the Jumo 211 engines for the Ju 88 A1 ( ofcourse the engine pictured in this thread is NOT a Jumo 211 ( fooled me for a few minutes there as one got caried away with the other pictures of the 88 ) but still..the fact that parts can be found in these conditions even after 60+ years in the open

best regards
Guttorm Fjeldstad
Project leader on restoration of Ju 88 A1 werknumber 0119

harrison987 26th July 2009 10:54

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Dpeends on the year...a lot of stuff came out of Norway before the government had any interest...


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Originally Posted by Junkers88A1 (Post 89379)
i assume you delivered this part to the norwegian armed forces museum as its strictly forbidden to steal parts from wrecks in Norway, and they belong to the norwegian armed forces museum. If not you are actually confirming a theft here


Junkers88A1 26th July 2009 15:31

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it seems in the post that it was kinda recent ! and the parts has belonged to the norwegian Gov. since 1945 so its always been illegal..but its only on the last years that they have done anything with it and cared about it ( so you are partely right on that )..and its also been many legal trips to wrecksites so if he took part in any of those its 100% ok. and after a mail i got from another person in here it seems it was one of those fieldtrips he took part in but then that is something he should have written ! :)

markjsheppard 30th July 2009 02:21

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Hi all

Had the W.Nr confirmed from one contact. It is generally old news - parts were offered for sale a few years ago. W.Nr was 2074.

Andreas was kind enough to send a link to the loss.

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107189

Crew survived. KG30. I am assuming it was a belly landing. All crew unhurt and returned OK.

Believe a lot of wrecks in Russia were blown up in the years between the end of the GPW and 1970/80's?

Hope this help. Thanks again to Andreas.

Mark

DaveM2 30th July 2009 02:37

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Mark

If that is 2074 a lot more of the aircraft was extant and in good condition, wings and undercarriage included, but no forward fuselage.

Dave

robert 30th July 2009 09:00

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Hi,

4D+GP was lost on weather recon sortie due to engine failure and the entire crew bailed out. The plane crashed by Kinstinki some 200 SE of Kemi. In the evening of this day 18 Ju 88 of II./KG30 were bombing Archangielsk.

Regards

Robert


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