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O.Menu 5th September 2005 10:19

Re: JG 301 or ... JG 5 ?
 
Hm,

Erich, isn't it strange to find all those reverse fuselage bands in South Germany when I./JG301 got Leck as last assigned airfield? Is it possible that they were not from I./JG301?

O.Menu 6th September 2005 04:48

Re: JG 301 or ... JG 5 ?
 
JG301 late war markings, new understanding:

Since, thanks to Steve Sheflin, we now know for sure that reversed JG301 fuselage had existed, there is two possibilities:

1/ this reversed RV is not for JG301, but this is hard to believe since exist many other RV colors possibilies before going to paint reversed and easy missleading RV colors.

2/ and best solution:
Each JG301 group used different markings for their 2 heavies and 2 lights Staffeln:

GeschwaderStab > green + blue horizontal bar (see NASM Ta 152 restoration )

I./JG301 Stab > chevron + reversed RV (see chevron4)

1./JG301 > (outlined? ) white + reversed RV (see white 5)
2./JG301 > outlined black + reversed RV (see black9)

3./JG301 > outlined yellow + (see yellow 17 )
4./JG301 > outlined blue + (see blue 7)



II./JG301 Stab > unknown

5./JG301 > white + red horizontal bar (see white 21 or D9 white 12 )
6./JG301 > red + red horizontal bar (see red 22 )

7./JG301 > yellow + white horizontal bar (see yellow 8 )
8./JG301 > blue + white horizontal bar (see blue? 20 in Barbas book)



III./JG301 > unknown markings since disbanded before end of war and so no Allied post war photos

IV./JG301 > same as III./JG301.


Indeed one or 2 photos shows Bf 109G-10 with an horizontal bar but this is perhaps after disbanded IV./JG301 transfered some of his Bf 109 to II./JG301, especially if we remember, that Erich said us one time IV./JG301 had red horizontal bar ?

So Erich about your last photo > could it be a "dark blue 3 + - " from 8./JG 301 or a "dark green 3 + - " from Stab II./JG301 ?

Note: Could anyone owning AIRFOIL #3, page 32 confirm if "white5 +" got outlined digit or even better send me a copy ?
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