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byron- 16th June 2012 08:17

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
Dear Paul,

Hier are the pages 555a and 556a, as one can see the date is 23.04.1945

Byron

RolandF 16th June 2012 12:34

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
For the combination of number/ unit code the Bf 109s of NAGr 14 come in mind, coded 12 + 5F and 3 + 5F ?

Regards

Roland

byron- 16th June 2012 18:23

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
Hi all,

some "Werk-Nummern" of Me 262 (Jagdgeschwaders 44)

byron- 16th June 2012 22:22

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
Hi,

rebels in Munich, unbelievable

Marc-André Haldimann 16th June 2012 23:10

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Originally Posted by RolandF (Post 149660)
For the combination of number/ unit code the Bf 109s of NAGr 14 come in mind, coded 12 + 5F and 3 + 5F ?

Regards

Roland

Hallo Roland,

Correct! I thought of them, but was more axed on the numbers this morning...

Thanks
Marc

veltro 17th June 2012 15:07

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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 149648)
An interesting start for a not so rare position of tactical markings behind the Balkenkreuz. I have found at least five different photographically documented occurrences, listed below:

The first is Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 463, of FFS B 1 Kaltenkirchen, February 1945, published in D'Amico and Valentini 1984, p. 102? A close-up can be found in Bergström and Pegg 2005, p. 183.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625539886908
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625539886908

To be more precise, that "+7" was photographed at Holzkirchen, where the pilots of I° Gr.C. of the ANR were training on the Bf 109 from November 1944 to late January 1945. In the attached photo, it can be clearly seen behind a group pf Italian pilots on the white snowy plain of Holzkirchen airfield.

If it came there from an operational unit I don't know, but it is sure that it was there with training tasks before ending abandoned in a Czeckoslovakian airfield in May 1945...

ChristianK 17th June 2012 17:11

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Originally Posted by byron- (Post 149697)
Hi,

rebels in Munich, unbelievable

Yes, interesting to find orders relating to this in a KTB. Here's some additional info about the mentioned events (if you can read German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiheitsaktion_Bayern

Regards,
Christian

Paul Thompson 17th June 2012 20:15

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
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Originally Posted by byron- (Post 149653)
Dear Paul,

Hier are the pages 555a and 556a, as one can see the date is 23.04.1945

Byron

Dear Byron,

Thank you very much! On something of a side note, does the KTB give any indication as to the proportion of Bf 109K-4s in Luftflotte 6 fighter units?

Regards,

Paul

byron- 17th June 2012 21:18

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
I don`t know Paul,

i have to go threw the diary

regards
Byron

Rolfeb 17th June 2012 21:33

Re: Losses in the last days of the Reich
 
Hi Byron-,

thanks for sharing this material.
If you have time and also material from Luftflotte 7 in your treasure, I'm looking for the losses in South Germany especially from April 22nd till April 26th.
Would be great if you could provide it. If not, no problem.

Thanks in advance

Rolfeb


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