Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

As an aside - H I Couzens later commanded Hemswell, and was responsible for the famous colour film "Night Bombers"

Allan

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Hello Martin,

Geoff Matheson was killed with my wife's father on 24 Aug 1943 flying
mosquito HJ 673 an aircraft they first flew at High Ercall on 60 O.T.U. in May 43.

Since GCM was not piloting the pranged a/c his logbook will not contribute. I did email the person with GCM's pilot's log to see if there was information about his flying on that day and here's what he reports:

I've checked Geoffrey's log book for the period around 21 April 1940. Certainly no mention of the specific Spitfire in your email (N3200). Indeed, the entry for 21 April was an engine test of N3238, a Spitfire he had already flown on 15 April. However, following the last entry for 27 April, there is an entry for 21 April (although it could be an error for 27 April) for a flight in Spitfire L1031 "to and from Duxford", lasting one hour. If he had delivered another Spitfire that day it seems strange not to have mentioned it/them in an otherwise very detailed log, not least because it must have taken up some significant time.

I note in the diary that GCM and 3 pilots had flown to Ternhill on 5th April to collect four spitfires. Not quite sure how they did this so assume they left their transport at Ternhill.

I am hoping to get a look at the Pilot's log later in October.

Best wishes,

Howard

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Hello Howard,

Thanks for that. In October I would be interested to learn if you find anything about K9825 (8 April to 26 May 1940) or his Spitfire on 30 August 1940.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Will do Martin. I have 5 photos of his crash landing near the paper mills at Sittingbourne on 30 Aug 1940. the serial I was given was P9443. I will check the accuracy of this with his log. Regards, Howard

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Hello Howard,

the reason I am so interested in his aircraft on 30 August 1940 is because primary (22 Sqn. ORB and the AIR 81 casualty file) and published sources record his Spitfire serial number as P9443. However this aircraft was a write-off because of the damage it suffered this day.

According to the same sources P9375 was supposed to have been the mount of P/O Carpenter (also 222 Sqn.) this same day. Carpenter baled out but actually P9375 was repaired, later returned to 222 Sqn. and flew with an OTU into 1941.

I think Carpenter baled out of P9443 (total loss) and Matheson crash-landed in P9375 (repaired).

Do the photos show a serial number or individual letter on the fuselage side ? How damaged does the Spitfire appear ?

Regards,

Martin.

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Martin I think the number I was given through a friend with a connection to the RAF Historical section is a typo as the plane was written off. so must have actually been P9443.

I can send photos if you like.

Howard

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

Hello Howard,

that would be great re. the photos and much appreciated.

I have also sent you a private message using the PM system.

Regards,

Martin.

Re: Spitfire K9820 and others.
 

I now have an explanation of this event.

I have recently beeen loaned GC Matheson's pilot logbooks and a large box of related air force books from his widow's collection.

Tucked inside the book, "Fighter Squadron" by Derek Palmer was a letter, a typescript page and copy of a Peter Howard-Williams photograph that included Geoffrey Matheson.


Letter from Derek Palmer to Margo Legg,

<Snip> Peter Howard-Williams did a long audio tape (it is unclear when he recorded this - H) which I transcribed over about six or seven pages. I have enclosed the page which refers to Geoff. ys. DP

<Snip> "I remember coming back to Duxford from Horsham St Faith, it was quite late in the evening and I was flying number two to Matheson. We had left Horsham a little late and we hadn't any night flying facilities at Duxford for landing at night. And Matty, as he was known, wanted to go via his girlfriend's house and beat up the house which we duly did. When we got back it was pretty dark and when I came into land I hit some obstruction in the middle of the airfield that was marking some damp patches. I didn't damage anything but you couldn't see these obstructions because it was too dark. I remember Matty got a bollocking for that."

Matheson's diary seems to suggest that it was the other way around and they were returning to Horsham St Faith from Duxford. He doesn't mention the diversion of beating up his girlfriend's house on this occasion but this may have been noticed and reported to the C.O. explaining his annoyance!

These accounts also differ in regard to the extent of damage - if any.

This was 21st April 1940 so the ORB and or MT pages may indicate which aircraft Peter Howard-Williams (The C.O., G. Stephenson's) was flying on this occasion. Matheson was in L1031 which he seems to have taken over from Douglas Bader when he was with 19 Squadron. Clearly a talisman for him as he did the same with Bader's first 222 squadron Spitfire P9443.