Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Reasons? Highly-intensive combat missions, small-caliber gunfire, crashes on take-off and landing. That was enough for Bf109's, flying low-level strafing attacks over the Belostock area, wich was filled with troops.

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Hello andrus,

because of two double entries in the GenQu. loss reports actually 14 Bf 109 and 3 Hs 123 were lost on these two days.

Here the loss reasons are listed:

Ursache/cause 1 (= Totalverlust durch Feindeinwirkung auf Feindflug vermisst)
3 Bf 109 E-7

Ursache/cause 20 (= Totalverlust ohne Feindeinwirkung mit Feindauftrag)
5 Bf 109 E-7 (3 Startunfälle/start accidents, 1 Notlandung/emergency landing, 1 Absturz/crash)

Ursache/cause 21 (= beschädigt ohne Feindeinwirkung mit Feindauftrag)
3 Hs 123 B-1 (1 Startunfall/start accident, 2 Landeunfälle/landing accidents)
1 Bf 109 E-4/B (Startunfall/start accident)
5 Bf 109 E-7 (2 Startunfälle/start accidents, 3 Notlandungen/emergency landings).

Regards
Leo

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Hi Andreas,
My question concerns the the strength report of the II./(Schl.) LG 2you attached here...how does one read this ? My second question is where in the archives did you find it ?

Thanks in advance
oquaig

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Hi, oquaig

You could start by reading this and the subsequent blog posts on deciphering the strength reports:

https://aviationhistorynorway.blogsp...h-reports.html

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Hi, all

Commenting on the unusual high losses on June 22nd and 23rd 1941. These were the immediate start of Barbarossa - were LG 2 was heavily involved in attacks on ground troops - and as we know the Bf 109 was in no way impregnable to small arms fire flying at low level...

But - in this case it was more the conditions of the airfield that led to a high number of aircraft losses:

Suwalki - 5 aircraft damaged in ground handling:

3 aircraft 'beim Start ausgebrochen'
2 aircraft 'zusammenstoss beim Start'

Berzniki - 7 aircraft damaged during approach or shortly after landing and 2 during take-off:

2 aircraft 'beim Start ausgebrochen'
2 aircraft 'Notlandung' - could be due to damage obtained during operations
2 aircraft 'bei Landing ausgebrochen'
2 aircraft 'Bruchlanding'
1 aircraft 'Absturz'


In addition 3 aircraft were lost in the Grodno area - these likely being combat losses.

Uffz. Bodden and Uffz. Wolf returned to the unit unhurt, so I would not be surprised if photos exist of the emergency landed L + and H + exist - unless they parachuted to safety.

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Yes, belly-landed /\+L photo exist, I can sent it to You if need.

Also, landing accidents occure often, when mainwheels were shot through by enemy small arms fire.

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Hi, Evgeny!

AS I have the possibility to attach photos to the loss records on my site now a copy would be nice as it will also appear on the loss record when I post a link.

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Here You are. Russland, summer 1941. Possibly aircraft You need.

Re: II.(Schlacht)Lehrgeschwader 2
 

Thank you very much Andreas. Just what I needed to know.
regards
oquaig