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Don Pearson 1st November 2014 16:37

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
On the photo of white 34; what are the two tags under the gun hatches? Are they stencils? In other photos there are often 2 of these, but some photos show just one.

Don

Richard T. Eger 1st November 2014 20:59

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Dear Don,

The stencils indicate the number of rounds to be loaded for each of the MK 108 cannons. One cannon receives 80 rounds, while the other receives 100 rounds. For a 2-cannon Me 262, there would only be a single stencil below the gun hatch. Obviously, in this photo white 34 has been fitted with a fighter nose.

Regards,
Richard

Jaap Woortman 3rd November 2014 11:03

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaap Woortman (Post 191133)
What would be the location of the WNr plate in the frame of an Me 262?

After all the discussion about air-intakes just below the cockpit windows, I want to put my question in another way.
If the WNr plate is not in the position according to Stephen's document, what would be then the most logical position
of the WNr-plate of the aircraft for the Me 262. Or wasn't there a aircraft WNr-plate at all?

Another question is: does someone has a list of Baugruppen of the Me 262. And is such a list published, dig. or on paper?

Jaap

Snautzer 3rd November 2014 12:36

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaap Woortman (Post 191509)
Another question is: does someone has a list of Baugruppen of the Me 262.
Jaap

Yes.

Vince Malfara 4th November 2014 20:43

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Hello gentleman

I had heard of several locations on the 262 where a W.Nr plate may have been attached if at all. The location on the port side of the aircraft was mentioned as a possible location, as well as the cockpit tub, the vertical stabilizer where the rudder attaches to, a couple of others that I can't recall right now as I don't have access to my files.

This link http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8/Me262_02.jpg
shows the air scoop Richard is referring to, however no plate. I heard from some sources that the ID plates were taken off of the 262's by souvenir hunters. If that was so I would expect that one would have appeared by now.
I agree that some photos show an indentation at that location which could very well have been for the ID plate.

Stephen, thank you for the copy of the flugzeugtypenschild, the placement of an ID plate on the aircraft at that location makes logical sense for that is the side of the aircraft the pilot or service crews would enter and exit and having the ID of the plane there if required makes sense.

On another note, the photo from the dig site showing the W.Nr there seems to be an additional "1" at the end of it as well as some other art work, etc. Is this a manufacturing stamp from the company that made the duralumin or aluminum?

All the best

Vince...

Nordpol54 5th November 2014 09:15

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
@ Vince and all,

the "additional" stencil behind the W.-Nr. is not a "1", it's an "L". Just a theory of mine: That "L" represents the manufacturer code - in this case "Leipheim". In additional there is to see a fullstop between the last W.-Nr. digit 6 and the L. Possibly I am wrong anyway...

Best Regards
Norbert

Jaap Woortman 5th November 2014 11:31

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Norbert, you are not.
It's .L but it could also be the L for Links or in English Left.
Then it would be an indication for it's positie during assembling of the plane.

Jaap

Nordpol54 5th November 2014 12:20

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
@ Jaap,

You're absolutely right. So one has to find out whether the part with the W.-Nr. shown in this photography is part of the fuselage or of the left wing (or something else left sided of that kite). I simply can't make that out.

Best Regards
Norbert

ouidjat 5th November 2014 13:04

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Gentlemen,

I don't know why - maybe just a feeling - this is a good thread; with nice people, with nice posts and so on ...
Please continue like that.


Best regards, Franck.

Richard T. Eger 5th November 2014 14:28

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 
Dear All,

Another possibility that has occurred to me is that the "L" might simply be the last letter of the aircraft's unit identification code.

Regards,
Richard


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