|
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Of the list only Chromy, Czownicki, Konieczny, Szuberski, and Szwarc were Polish citizens, the rest being Soviets. There were not much more Polish citizens in the 'Polish People's Air Force'.
Have a nice night & day! |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
So they had not enough real Polish pilots for their Polish units and had to complete them with Soviet citizen ?
Kind regards, Michael |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
I would say the opposite. Apart of two units, namely 1 PLM and 2 PLNB, the rest were Soviet units, transferred to PPAF and renumbered.
The original two units had some Polish citizens, but I am not sure if there was a handful of pre-war Polish pilots amongst them. Practically all command positions were held by Soviets, except two trusted men. |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Hello Franek,
I'm intrigued that Josef Frantisek is on the Lista Bajana. He is Czech, isn't he ? Cheers, Michaed |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Because he served in the Polish Air Force, and was on Polish payroll. A number of foreigners joined Polish Air Force, plenty of Czechoslovaks, several Americans of both Polish origin and not, Latin Americans, few Estonians, etc.
Please note, that Gładych's score on the list does not include some victories - it is becuase he was not in the Polish Air Force, when he scored them. As he was not in the USAAF, it would make him civilian I think. |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Quote:
can you tell me if the Skalski kill list that Greg posted is from the Sojda/Śliżewski book he mentioned ? Or: Are you even Grzegorz Sojda or Grzegorz Śliżewski, Greg ? Cheers, Michael |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Greg is out for a week or two.
As to the list, a better one is in my book, it includes victories not claimed and downgraded. The victory on 8 November 1940 was for one shared and not two. |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Good morning Franek,
you're right. I was wondering if Greg S. is Greg Śliżewski because the latter wrote an article for AVIONS which lists two shared Hurricane kills less and one Spitre kill more than indicated in the list that Greg S. posted in post 7. Have a nice weekend, Michael |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Hello All.
It's a long time I follow this thread About Skalski. I didn't want to answer for many reasons, maybe you will understand I had the honour to meet Stanislaw Skalski in Warsaw the 5th september 2000. My guide was now my friend Franek. a long friendship. After I did my article about Skalski in REPLIC in 3 parts in n°113, 114 and 115 of Jan, feb and march 2001. When I saw the article in Avions n° 141 (dec 2004) I was vey upset and annoyed because some photos and some infos came directly from my article without asking a permission. I was sure because for these 2 photos I took directly during my visit to "Skal" . Impossible to find these two photos outside of the collection of the great Ace In my revue AceS in issue number 2 (Feb 2017) I did a new version of the bio of Skalski with the help of Franek with some photographs ( his book is fantastic !). For the victories of the 8 nov 1940, I found at the PI&SM a long time ago a paper in the Skalski files about these 2 victories of 8 nov 1940. I have a xray copy of this paper some where. It was written that 2 Bf 109 shared were claimed by 3 pilots of 501 Sqn, among them S. Skalki, on 8th november The story is like that In the morning of 8th november a patrol of 501 Sqn A flight composed if I Remember well with P/O Skalski (V6723/SD°B) F/S Whitehouse (V7469/K) and F/L Jones (????) see a pair of Bf 109; they attack them but themself were attacked by outnumbered of Bf 109. They flew away Even the 3 pilots of RAF have seen some impacts they didn't claim these victories. The same day, in the same place the unit of the Royal Observer Corps have seen the combat and found the wrecks of 2 Bf 109. The only, really only, pilots in the air at this precise moment were the pilots of 501 Sqn. The claim was official in the middle december 40 One of the 2 photos I took at Skalki's house show the 3 pilots with the rudder of one of the 2 Bf 109 shot down on 8th november 1940. This photo was with a bad quality that why I didn't put in my last article in AceS Thank you. Ps. Sorry for my bad English. |
Re: Stanislaw, Skalski
Hello Many.
Thank you for the detailed information regarding Skalski's 2 shared kills of 8 Nov 1940. Peter |
| All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:32. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net