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marsyao 20th October 2006 01:11

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Just received a notice from Eagle Editions Ltd.Black Cross Red Star Vol. 3 now is arrived

LukeFF 22nd October 2006 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marsyao (Post 31101)
Just received a notice from Eagle Editions Ltd.Black Cross Red Star Vol. 3 now is arrived

Yep, same here. I put in an order with them, so hopefully it won't be long in coming.

Christer Bergström 28th October 2006 20:22

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Yes, it has been published. :)

See my website below which contains information regarding this and other forthcoming books.

All the best,

Christer Bergström

Ruy Horta 2nd November 2006 19:31

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I've seen aggressive marketing of History Books, but this goes a bit far!!

http://eagle-editions.com/IMG_0437.gif

http://eagle-editions.com/BCRS.HTM

Pre-ordered my copy more than a year ago, but seeing this I'd be tempted to order a couple more!!

Is that Patty, Eagle Edition's "Office Manager"?

:piliot:

Jukka Juutinen 3rd November 2006 03:36

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Oh boy, what a perfect scene! How the hell did they know my preferences:)

Aviaeology1 9th November 2006 21:58

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Hi All,
We just received our shipment of BCRS3 and I have to confess that, after flipping through the first opened box, I am our very first customer for it.

What a beautiful volume (not to detract from the picture of Rachael above of course!). The profiles are the usual excellent job and the photo selection is very well done - a refreshing blend of 1st time (that I've seen) and limited previous exposure shots, all occuring in the right places relevant to the little text I have glanced over.

I look forward to digging into a deeper reading of it through the weekend (and then some), but on the face of it, I cannot see where anybody will be disappointed with this awesome piece of work... a worthy addition to the BCRS tradition... a must for any Eastern Front or Luftwaffe oriented library... I could go on... and on.

Christer, you and your team are to be heartily commended. Congratulations on another real winner.
Terry @ Aviaeology
www.aviaeology.com

Dénes Bernád 10th November 2006 22:14

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Hello Terry,

I just pre-ordered BC+RS at your site. Will you ship both the Dragon... book and this one in one parcel (one shipping fee)?

P.S. Thanks for your kind comments related to my recent book on the Henschel Hs 129...

Csaba B. Stenge 17th November 2006 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruy Horta (Post 31897)
I've seen aggressive marketing of History Books, but this goes a bit far!!

http://eagle-editions.com/IMG_0437.gif

http://eagle-editions.com/BCRS.HTM

Pre-ordered my copy more than a year ago, but seeing this I'd be tempted to order a couple more!!

Is that Patty, Eagle Edition's "Office Manager"?

:piliot:

Wow, a really 'talented' Honeybunny and I am sure, that the book is the same quality. Gratz, Christer, I am sure, it will be a great success.

marsyao 20th November 2006 07:21

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I am spending the whole weekend reading this book, and almost finished 80% of it, and the impression it gave me is great, the only problme, I may be a little greedy, is that when I was waiting for this book, for years actually, I kind of expect when it descript the great air battle over Stalingrad, it would be more like a day-by-day, blow-by-blow account, used both side accounts in detail, I may read too many books of Chirstopher shores, you guys shall know what I means, I do not mean Black Cross Red Star Vol. 3 was not good, but although christer did provide daily claims submitted by German fighters (those claimed by Luftwaffe bomber and flak units were not included), I usually could not find how many aircrafts actually lost by VVS, and according to Soviet records, how many of those were shot down by Luftwaffe fighters, how many down by German flak, and how many simply did not return from mission ? for example "When 18 September was over, more than one third of the II-2 in 228 ShAD and 291 ShAD had been either lost or put out of commision in a single day's fighting, The German fighters claimed 77 victories for a single loss." "In total Fliegerkorps VIII's German fighter pilots claimed 25 Soviet aicraft shot down against only four of their own combat losses on September 16. Meanwhile, Romanian airmen reported another four victories", "30 Soviet aicraft reportedly shot down by Fliegerkorps VIII that day, Romanian airmen contributed with three" etc. etc.
Christer did provide the VVS loss data in some time period, for example "16 VA, with an average of less than 100 operational aircrafts, 1ost 111 aircraft between 4 September to 11 September. To Those figures should be add at least as many aicraft lost by 8 VA and 102 IAD PVO", but not a day-by-day loss data. the comparision of VVS claimes and actually Luftwaffe losses were more available, but still was not for everyday,
I understand that this book was not title with "air battle over Stalingrad", so that could not be go to too detail, and it was possible some of those VVS war time doucment still not available to public, but I still wish it could be a little more, like Christopher shore, a two way street, first claim from one side, then from other side's account, how many aircraft really lost, and if possiblem what were the causes ?
I wish Christer would not say I am too pigy, because overall, it was an excellent and highly recommand book.

nick de carteret 20th November 2006 09:40

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Amazon.com still showing this message : Availability: This title has not yet been released. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

What's going on???


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