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musec04 11th June 2024 17:49

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe are a couple of photos of a Caudron,a R.11, I think being blessed by a priest


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...046255092.html


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...046254849.html


The aircraft has a escargot ailé insignia on the nose. Any thoughts on whether this is a SAL.1 unit marking or something else. It appears to differ in detail from any Escadrille 1 marking i've seen


Regards,


Clint

musec04 29th August 2024 13:24

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay some Interesting (?) photos of Caudron G.III


4054 with a Meerkat (earlier thansuspected advertising?) or is it a cat marking?


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197485711...4AAOSwumVm0DzC


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197490092...MAAOSw4lNm0D7D


Also an early G.III C.56


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197492518...oAAOSwcUlm0D8w


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 30th August 2024 10:00

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Well Clint

I can't imagine anyone would paint a meerkat on an aeroplane back in 1915 or so.
Some 90-95% of the Esc personal would not have a clue what that was.

I have seen a few in the wild in Botswana and Namibia but how well known would they
have been in Europe? Really cute fellows by the way!!

It surely is an angry/startled cat! A meerkat never reacts that way.

Cheers
Stig

musec04 25th September 2024 19:31

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Caudron R.11 C.3651 (I think)


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405249614364...Bk9SR7SvqKLFZA


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 25th September 2024 23:12

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Very tricky digits Clint

I myself read them as C.5651, but I admit I am very hesitant doing so.
Main reason is I believe the first and third digits are the same and since I only have Caudron R.11
in the 5000 range and none in the 3000 range, well that's it I guess.

Looking at the second digit it then has to be a six since it is different from the first and third digit.

Does that make any sense?

Cheers
Stig

musec04 26th September 2024 09:43

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Hi Stig,


I must admit in terms of known R.11 serials your serial appears a lot more likely. That is there are a fair number of R.11 with C.55** serials on Albin Denis http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...te_Caudron.htm For my part the only R.11 serial I have in the C.36** is C.3608 and even then,this is accepting the sellers caption because even with magnification the serial is not legible.


However, I 'm going to send you a word copy of the photo I have just posted which you can magnify (say more than 400%) and which I argue shows the upper part of the first numeral being open to the left and the second numeral appears closed on the left where it loops at the bottom,we both agree that the third numeral is different.


Regards,


Clint

Buckeye30 26th September 2024 21:19

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
This is the problem we've had before, French "3"s and "5"s; this is Nieuport N.1539 (the serials are also on the wing tips) you can see the difference here between them. The Caudron looks like C.3531 to me.

I posted a couple of close-ups showing the numbers some time ago but can't find them.
Regards
Nick


http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww1.../nieup17-5.jpg

Stig Jarlevik 27th September 2024 00:56

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Nick

Another friend of mine also thinks the SFA number is C3531 so you do have a point.... :)

Cheers
Stig

AndyMa 27th September 2024 13:31

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Out of curiousity I looked at the photo without being swayed by previous answers.
I also think it reads C3531.

musec04 27th September 2024 13:33

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 
Well, we seem to have a consensus.Thank you all for the replies.


Regards,


Clint


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