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Darius

30th March 2011 21:39

Re: First Luftwaffe victory over RAF

Hello Brian,

I hope you´re still waiting for some information about this Ju-52...

We (http://forum-marinearchiv.de/index.php) have:
1.

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Am 05.09.1939 schießt das Panzerschiff ADMIRAL SCHEER auf Schilling-Reede eine Ju 52 T ab (Totalverlust), wobei die Insassen (3 Mann Zivilbesatzung, 1 Offz., 1 Korpsgerichtsrat und 1 Zivilangestellter) zu Tode kommen.

Quelle: Zusammenstellung Ic Lw. F.Stb.

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12(?, ist bei mir unleserlich...).00 Uhr "Scheer" schießt auf Schilling Reede bei unsichtigem Wetter eine ihn anfliegende Ju. 52 ab (7 Tote, darunter Hptm. Klünder).

Quelle: KTB Skl for 05.09.1939

Greetings

Darius

Larry Hickey

31st March 2011 09:32

Re: First Luftwaffe victory over RAF

Hello,

Does anyone know if photos exist of either of these crashed Wellingtons from this this action? I'm sure a big deal was made of this in the contemporary German press.

Regards,

Darius

2nd April 2011 17:44

Re: First Luftwaffe victory over RAF

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1) Sept 4, this Bf109 shot down and the pilot killed while the Flak barrage was shooting at the Blenheims. Mellum was a couple of Kms north east of the Scheer. This must have been Falke/Fake

Piening, Holger: Nordseeküste im Krieg 1939-1942, S. 64, zitiert aus dem KTB Admiral Scheer für den 04.09.1939:

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"Ein eigener Jäger geriet durch falsches Verhalten in das starke Abwehfeuer des Schiffes, Abstoppen erfolglos. Flugzeug wurde abgeschossen. Leiche des Flugzeugführers (Lt. Falke) geborgen."

Greetings

Darius

Bf 110

6th September 2016 10:20

Re: First Luftwaffe victory over RAF

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Originally Posted by Brian (Post 46057)

Hi guys

Can anyone tell me more about D-AGZI the Ju52 shot down by Scheer? Was it a Lufthansa machine? Who were the casualties?

Cheers
Brian

Hello Brian,

found that thread while looking for the Scheer accident.

There are some more informations regarding a/c and crew. This Ju 52 had code WL-AGZG and WNr. 1304. The crew consisted of FF Kutschbach; Bf Erwin Preuss; Bw Baasch; Passagiere (passengers): Hptm. Günther Klünder,
Meterologe Dr. Erhard K. A. Böhm, Kriegsgerichtsrat Dr. Brinkmann, Ofw. Brammer, St.Fkmt. Willi Becker, zivil Angestellter (clerk) Rohde.

Source: http://luftwaffe-zur-see.de/Seeluft/...n/Jahr1939.htm

Regards
Gunnar - Bf 110 -

VtwinVince

6th September 2016 21:42

Re: First Luftwaffe victory over RAF

No German city was ever 'liberated' by a Polish, or indeed any Allied unit in WW2, they were captured.

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