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Andrey Kuznetsov 11th June 2018 13:41

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hello Carl-Fredrik,


Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl-Fredrik Geust (Post 253246)
I have now been able to load down the entire 12452 folder (Luftwaffe), and now the Kriegsmarine folder (12453)


Both (12452 and 12453) are not complete sets, some Akten are missing (and some of them very interesting). Hope it will be uploaded on the website in 2018.


Best regards,
Andrey

jim norton 11th June 2018 16:07

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
hi,

these magnet links doesn't work in my browser. is it a way to get in touch with files which aren't available yet?

all the best
jim

Larry deZeng 11th June 2018 16:34

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Mine neither, Jim.

L.

PMoz99 11th June 2018 16:38

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jim norton (Post 253261)
hi,

these magnet links doesn't work in my browser. is it a way to get in touch with files which aren't available yet?

all the best
jim

Jim and Larry, the magnet link is not a webpage, it is a file location. It doesn't work in a browser.
To get the files at that "magnet location", you need to have a program like uTorrent installed on your computer. If/when you do, open it, click file, then Add Torrent from URL, paste the magnet link into the space and click OK. The files will start downloading.
BUT BEWARE - these downloads aren't small. The first link provided is around 34Gb, the second about 17Gb. It could take many hours, And if your internet account has limitations on how much you can download, you may incur additional costs if you exceed that limit.
Once downloaded, you can go to the folder to which the files were downloaded and open them. If you don't know where that is, in uTorrent click Options, then Preferences, and then Directories and the answer will be there.
Peter

Marcel Hogenhuis 11th June 2018 17:46

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hello

Perhaps a silly question but what is the second link? I used the (edited) first magnetlink and it worked well. I haven't seen another link ?

Best regards, Marcel

ju55dk 11th June 2018 18:03

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
The link provided to the Kriegsmarine files.

Junker

Mikael Olrog 11th June 2018 19:29

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
I'm in the same position as Marcel - I download 12452 right now (woot woot! :-) Thanks Andrey!) but I have trouble in locating the second link for Kriegsmarine files!

ju55dk 11th June 2018 19:44

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
See post 115. It's a link to the KM files.

Junker

Mikael Olrog 11th June 2018 19:54

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Awesome Junker, thanks!

Are any of the other Findbuchs available on Torrent?

KrisJG3 11th June 2018 23:31

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
How to get "start file to torrent" for :
47.
400
Karten der Heeresgruppe Weichsel
(1945)


?


Is it a way how to do start file for all documents according to list :


https://www.ifz-muenchen.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Vierteljahreshefte/Beilagen/H%c3%bcrter-Uhl_CAMO_Bestand_500_%c3%9cbersicht.pdf

Andy Mitchell 11th June 2018 23:50

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael Olrog (Post 253280)
Awesome Junker, thanks!

Are any of the other Findbuchs available on Torrent?

Mikael -see Andrey's reply in post 117 to my similar question.

Larry deZeng 12th June 2018 01:10

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Wow. Sigh. This is all too complicated and time-consuming for someone from my generation. I think I'll just wait until 12452 appears on the regular Fond 500 website. Besides, my ISP would have me arrested if a 173,894 TB file came through addressed to me. :eek:

L. :)

Andrey Kuznetsov 12th June 2018 01:11

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
1 Attachment(s)
Two torrent files for HGr B/Mitte collection in attachment. Hope it works out.
Some Akten contains inter alia Luftwaffe reports.

Best regards,
Andrey

PMoz99 12th June 2018 04:41

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Hogenhuis (Post 253267)
Hello

Perhaps a silly question but what is the second link? I used the (edited) first magnetlink and it worked well. I haven't seen another link ?

Best regards, Marcel

1st link post 107, 2nd link post 115. I only tried the second one. I noticed differences in the 2 links, so I figured they were for different files. Does the second in fact lead to the same data as the first?
Peter

Mikael Olrog 12th June 2018 08:10

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Thanks Andrey!



@Peter, there are links to two different files, the second is for Kriegsmaarine documents

PMoz99 12th June 2018 10:41

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Thanks Mikael - yes I see that now I have them.
I missed the earlier posts ......
Peter

steve sheridan 12th June 2018 11:30

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng (Post 253295)
Wow. Sigh. This is all too complicated and time-consuming for someone from my generation. I think I'll just wait until 12452 appears on the regular Fond 500 website. Besides, my ISP would have me arrested if a 173,894 TB file came through addressed to me. :eek:

L. :)

Must agree with Larry on this one, I've never seen anything so complicated and time consuming. Yes I know potentionally this could be the most exiting archive
so far unearthed but my poor machine is really groaning!

Best regs,
Steve.

Mikael Olrog 12th June 2018 12:44

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Larry, I sent you a PM

ju55dk 12th June 2018 13:14

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
It's not complicated, but it takes about 20 hours to download. But the alternative is to wait and then download one pages at a time. It will take you month/years to do so.

Junker

jim norton 12th June 2018 14:41

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PMoz99 (Post 253264)
Jim and Larry, the magnet link is not a webpage, it is a file location. It doesn't work in a browser.
To get the files at that "magnet location", you need to have a program like uTorrent installed on your computer. If/when you do, open it, click file, then Add Torrent from URL, paste the magnet link into the space and click OK. The files will start downloading.
BUT BEWARE - these downloads aren't small. The first link provided is around 34Gb, the second about 17Gb. It could take many hours, And if your internet account has limitations on how much you can download, you may incur additional costs if you exceed that limit.
Once downloaded, you can go to the folder to which the files were downloaded and open them. If you don't know where that is, in uTorrent click Options, then Preferences, and then Directories and the answer will be there.
Peter

hi peter,
and thanks for your input. 34gb - that's too much for my computer to be downloaded. i think i'll have to wait...
all the best
jim

Andrey Kuznetsov 12th June 2018 15:15

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hello Jim,

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim norton (Post 253321)
34gb - that's too much for my computer to be downloaded

You can download not a whole set but some Akten from it. It is possible and it is simple - before start the downloading to mark the necessary Akten only.

Best regards,
Andrey

Andy Mitchell 14th June 2018 00:43

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Guys,

Dont know if this is any help - here is a partially completed file list for 12452 detailing 600-693.
Still working on the rest.

jim norton 14th June 2018 14:59

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Mitchell (Post 253392)
Guys,

Dont know if this is any help - here is a partially completed file list for 12452 detailing 600-693.
Still working on the rest.


hi andy,
that´s interesting to see, what is still coming.
all the best
jim

Andy Mitchell 14th June 2018 17:35

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Jim,

The names, page count and kb size of the other 400 items as I work through the files.
This will take a while, will do some more this evening.

Marcel Hogenhuis 14th June 2018 22:19

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Thanks Andy,

Most helpful and much appreciated!

Best regards, Marcel

Andy Mitchell 15th June 2018 02:47

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Guys,

Here is a further update of the listing with additions for items 500- 599

Any corrections to this would be greatly appreciated.

Further updates to follow

RodM 15th June 2018 03:48

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hi Andy,

thanks for the updated list.

I can add a few:

500-12452-000098.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 304 - 333, 6.7.40 - 4.8.40
624 pp
514,683 Kb

500-12452-000099.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 334 - 358, 5.8.40 - 29.8.40
678 pp
538,627 Kb

500-12452-000100.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 359 - 389, 30.8.40 - 29.9.40
912 pp
622,848 Kb

500-12452-000101.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 391 - 421, 1.10.40 - 31.10.40 (Nr 390, 30.9.40 missing)
983 pp
808,450 Kb

500-12452-000102.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 422 - 441, 1.11.40 - 20.11.40
739 pp
639,664 Kb

500-12452-000103.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 442 - 462, 21.11.40 - 11.12.40
566 pp
487,126 Kb

500-12452-000104.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 463 - 479, 12.12.40 - 31.12.40 (part Nr 463, 12.12.40 missing)
430 pp
282,045 Kb


Cheers

Rod

RodM 15th June 2018 04:32

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
...and a few more:

500-12452-000087.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 71- 127, 1.11.39 - 31.12.39
642 pp
401,582 Kb

500-12452-000089.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 207- 236, 31.3.40 - 29.4.40 (prob incomplete)
339 pp
231,179 Kb

500-12452-000091.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 4- 70, 26.8.39 - 2.11.39 (prob incomplete)
355 pp
239,684 Kb

500-12452-000094.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 238 - 256, 1.5.40 - 19.5.40
384 pp
293,881 Kb

500-12452-000095.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 257 - 278, 5.6.40 - 10.6.40
536 pp
301,707 Kb

500-12452-000096.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 279 - 303, 11.6.40 - 5.7.40
537 pp
445,460 Kb

500-12452-000108.pdf
Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 480 - 503, 1.1.41 - 24.1.41
561 pp
493,738 Kb


Cheers

Rod

Andy Mitchell 15th June 2018 08:47

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Rod,

Many thanks, will add these to the next copy.

RodM 15th June 2018 11:08

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
1 Attachment(s)
Hi Andy,

I've gone through all the OBdL Lagebereicht found so far (a surprisingly extensive collection), and have put the details in the attached xls file.

Cheers

Rod

Mihai Pica 15th June 2018 16:18

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Thank you all for your contributions, a big request though to anyone who already downloaded the torrent, please keep seeding !

As a side note, although the provided documents are great for text, sadly the maps still need a better resolution, here's hoping that they will be available on the website too soon !

Andy Mitchell 15th June 2018 22:35

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Rod,

Many thanks, am incorporating your notes in the file - will upload a new version later.

Andy Mitchell 15th June 2018 23:33

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Guys,

Here is the latest version all files sizes plus Rod's additions.

Hope to add more details over the weekend.

RodM 16th June 2018 06:40

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
1 Attachment(s)
Hi Andy,

attached is a list of further additions (highlighted in blue).

Cheers

Rod

Andy Mitchell 17th June 2018 00:28

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Guys,

Further updates plus Rod's latest additions.

All corrections and/or additions welcome.

RodM 17th June 2018 02:10

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hi Andy,

thanks for the update.

Firstly, is it worth inserting the names of the files not included in the PDF release? For example:

500-12452-000006 - 500-12452-000010
500-12452-000015 - 500-12452-000018
500-12452-000022 - 500-12452-000046 etc

I have no idea if these files will be also be released at a future time, but they highlight what is missing...

Secondly, here is an amendment to one of the entries:

500-12452-000087.pdf

Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 71- 127, 1.11.39 - 31.12.39 / [from PDF page 424] Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 237- 195, 30.4.40 - 18.3.40

642 pp


Cheers

Rod

Andy Mitchell 17th June 2018 02:25

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Rod,

I have added your ammendment to my copy of the file.

Hope to add some further detail tomorrow.

Regarding your suggestion about the missing files - totally agree. However, I think that I may leave that till the end and place a "Missing" text in the relevant notes field for each of these.

Once again many thanks for your help.

RodM 17th June 2018 10:09

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hi Andy,

I screwed up on the last amendment, it should read:

500-12452-000087.pdf

Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 71- 127, 1.11.39 - 31.12.39 / [from PDF page 424] Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 236 - 237 29.4.40 - 30.4.40 / [from PDF page 450] Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 197 - 206 21.3.40 - 30.3.40 / [from PDF page 526] Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht West Nr 179 - 195, 1.3.40 - 18.3.40

642 pp


...the file contains more orphan Lagebereicht than I thought. Another minor amendment:

500-12452-000095.pdf

Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Führungsstab Ic Lagebericht Nr 257 - 278, 20.5.40 - 10.6.40

536pp

Cheers

Rod

Moriii 17th June 2018 13:00

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hello all,


First post... Believe it or not, I did not know about this forum until I was pointed to it by a friend. Shame on me.


A big thanks to Andy in preparing the inventory of 12452, because I was doing exactaly the same on my side. This will stop some double work.


If anyone is interested, I can share a significant part of this collection, as well as others. The torrent mentioned above is also extremely convenient even if it probably lacks the large size items. Such was the case for the 12451 torrent put online a couple of years ago (the existence of which led the GDIR team to add this ugly watermark on all their files...).



Just drop me an email if you're interested. I should add that this is a non-commercial offer. Everything I send is free.


Mori

Andy Mitchell 17th June 2018 13:27

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Rod,

No worries, have added the amendment to the sheet.

Many thanks


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