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NT+CB is Me 210A-0 WNr 110058, rebuilt as Me 410 in 1942 at Mtt Augsburg-Haunstetten. Used by Mtt for high-speed diving trials, diverse reinforcements for 750 km/h Nachweisflüge in Jan.43

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RolandF

13starsinax

7th October 2020 01:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 295041)

Here are amateur attempts at cleaning up the He 111 and Ju 88 photos.

About the only additional details I can make out are:

He 111: in the background what looks like either a support for a perimeter fence, or maybe a power or phone line.

Ju 88: meander camouflage on the cockpit wall and a fuselage code that I read as +TS (see inset).

I am looking at the He-111 photos. The one photo is cropped, and the other is not.
It does appear under a 30x loupe, a power pole with phone/telegraph lines on insulators in the middle of the Y on top. Pole is two colored, is that a typical power pole for the period?

RudiS

7th October 2020 11:01

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

https://i.ibb.co/kqZxwj0/types-289.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...QAAOSwHuVffQ0W

RudiS

7th October 2020 11:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

https://i.ibb.co/zhQGByT/types-290.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Original...8AAOSwG-dfe-kb

Snautzer

7th October 2020 11:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Tail with wrknr 230459 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sn...kAAOSw1u5ffHLV

Stig Jarlevik

7th October 2020 17:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Out of curiosity, there is a clear discrepancy in size between 230 (rudder) and 459 (fin).

Does this mean the actual rudder has been replaced?

Cheers
Stig

S Sheflin

7th October 2020 17:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Hello Stig,
I found thirteen other examples of ATG-Leipzig-built Ju 188 Ds in the 230xxx series with the same WNr. form, i.e., the first three digits (maker ID) are applied approximately 1/3 smaller than the last three, and they are divided between the fin and rudder. I think it was purposeful.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Stig Jarlevik

7th October 2020 18:09

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Thanks Steve

Very interesting. Yes, sounds like they did it on purpose, but I cannot figure out a reason.....

Cheers
Stig

Nick Beale

7th October 2020 18:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 295676)

Thanks Steve

Very interesting. Yes, sounds like they did it on purpose, but I cannot figure out a reason.....

Cheers
Stig

The 140 … series Arado 234 was much the same.

RolandF