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ouidjat 2nd March 2019 18:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Rudi!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ww2-British...s/143152048288

Not Britisch but SAAF markings. This is KJ-? captured and refurbished by SAAF 4° Sqdn.

robert 3rd March 2019 03:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi,

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...591055&page=25

Robert

Snautzer 4th March 2019 12:34

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  1. Me262 tail wrknr 110687 (?) Schwabisch-Hall https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...Fvs:rk:12:pf:0
  2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...Fuh:rk:14:pf:0

  1. http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=620

RudiS 4th March 2019 16:18

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 265731)
Me262 tail wrknr 110687 (?) Schwabisch-Hall

I think this is 110607.


https://grm6vw.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/521-WWII-54...k/362571998283


https://grnppq.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/522-WWII-54...k/312513813831


https://grnwqa.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/523-WWII-54...e/362572002572


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https://www.ebay.com/itm/524-WWII-54...e/362572008771


https://grpvyw.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/519-WWII-54...r/312513824677

RudiS 5th March 2019 13:00

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://gromkq.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-US-Phot...y/264224508614




https://grmltq.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-US-Phot...t/264224600024

ouidjat 6th March 2019 10:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Rudi,

Thanks very much indeed for last links!
Regards,
Franck.

RudiS 6th March 2019 12:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
My pleasure, Franck

Snautzer 6th March 2019 22:05

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-1945-1...UAAOSwA05cgCL3

Marc-André Haldimann 7th March 2019 09:01

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-1945-1...cAAOSwRW9cgEhy

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 7th March 2019 12:38

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
#1609 Bernburg?

Marc-André Haldimann 7th March 2019 17:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 265857)
#1609 Bernburg?

Yup, this is the famous rig with the damaged left wing Fw 190.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 8th March 2019 13:45

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/35-WW2-Sign...y/352611141437




https://grpceg.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAPTURED-JU...3/401724274888


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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-GI-pho...e/392254955923

Nick Beale 8th March 2019 19:12

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A couple of thoughts about the belly-landed Ju 87 D-5:
  • The Alpine location is consistent with the last days of NSG 9, when some of its aircraft did not complete their withdrawal from Thiene to Innsbruck.
  • The camouflage looks like NSG 9's characteristic scheme.
  • The white spinner with narrow spiral doesn't.
  • There is a yellow individual letter on the starboard side which at first I took for a C or G (but E8+GL is already accounted for, backed into the barn at Innsbruck).
  • The 17 on the tail would be consistent with 3./NSG 9's earlier incarnation as 2./NSG 2, in which case 17 = Q. So maybe E8+QL. However, I'm not sure these numbers survived the application of NSG 9 camouflage once the unit arrived in Italy and was renamed.
  • MG 151/20 barrel on the port wing but apparently missing from the starboard.

RudiS 9th March 2019 15:32

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://slvdbw.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Medals-...e/323727299650

ChrisS 9th March 2019 18:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Well done RudiS, find that D-9 was excellent!

RudiS 10th March 2019 01:33

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisS (Post 265940)
Well done RudiS, find that D-9 was excellent!

I thought you guys would like that one. Here's another interesting one:

https://slwopg.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Luftwaffe-Fo...frcectupt=true

Marc-André Haldimann 10th March 2019 13:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The RVB tailband looks to be white-black, hence a I./JG 26 machine in Northern Germany ?

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 10th March 2019 16:18

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https://slv5wa.dm.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-WW2-US...e/323729747424

Snautzer 11th March 2019 12:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Me262 https://www.ebay.com/itm/632-WWII-10...8AAOSwLMFchbwi

RudiS 11th March 2019 12:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
OneDrive is not working properly again, so sorry but no photos today.


Me 262:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/631-WWII-10...s/312524245388

Ju 88:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Gi-ww2-A...s/113680966985

Ju 87:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...e/254158566976

Karoband 11th March 2019 16:09

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thank you, Rudi, for more Me 262s.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/631-WWII-10...s/312524245388

Under the heading sheer speculation I would guess at the identities of these planes at Hotting:

In the foreground is Major Bruckner's (G.d.S) White 12. Behind it is WNr. 110586 Red 1 of IV./EKG 1.

best regards,

Jim

Snautzer 11th March 2019 17:00

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Jim did you see post #1619?

Karoband 11th March 2019 18:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Snautzer,

Thank you for waking me up! That image of 111747 has probably the best resolution for that picture I have seen.

Thank you for this and all your posts.

Jim

Marc-André Haldimann 11th March 2019 18:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 266010)

Hi there RudiS - and thanks !

Could the Me 262's be seen at Lechfeld, or is it Innsbruck Hötting, as always ?

Thanks for your ongoing haul, highly appreciated.
Marc

Nick Beale 11th March 2019 19:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 266035)

Could the Me 262's be seen at Lechfeld, or is it Innsbruck Hötting, as always ?

Marc

it look absolutely like Hötting from the long straight road and trees bordering the landing ground. And as usual, the photographer was too dumb to get shots of the infinitely more important NSG 9 Ju 87s and Fw 190s there!

Marc-André Haldimann 11th March 2019 19:28

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 266039)
it look absolutely like Hötting from the long straight road and trees bordering the landing ground. And as usual, the photographer was too dumb to get shots of the infinitely more important NSG 9 Ju 87s and Fw 190s there!

Ah Nick, I appreciate your confirmation and absolutely LOVE your delicious parti-pris ;)

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 12th March 2019 14:10

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Me110-ZG76 Italien-1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-WK-Foto-Fl...4AAOSwIKNb~CEl

Roger Gaemperle 12th March 2019 17:29

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 265917)
A couple of thoughts about the belly-landed Ju 87 D-5:
  • The Alpine location is consistent with the last days of NSG 9, when some of its aircraft did not complete their withdrawal from Thiene to Innsbruck.
  • The camouflage looks like NSG 9's characteristic scheme.
  • The white spinner with narrow spiral doesn't.
  • There is a yellow individual letter on the starboard side which at first I took for a C or G (but E8+GL is already accounted for, backed into the barn at Innsbruck).
  • The 17 on the tail would be consistent with 3./NSG 9's earlier incarnation as 2./NSG 2, in which case 17 = Q. So maybe E8+QL. However, I'm not sure these numbers survived the application of NSG 9 camouflage once the unit arrived in Italy and was renamed.
  • MG 151/20 barrel on the port wing but apparently missing from the starboard.

Hi Nick,

Here’s another shot of this aircraft. Unfortunately, no info on the location:

http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air...JU87-NSG9.html

Cheers,
Roger

Nick Beale 12th March 2019 17:38

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle (Post 266080)
Hi Nick,

Here’s another shot of this aircraft. Unfortunately, no info on the location:

http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air...JU87-NSG9.html

Cheers,
Roger

Thanks for that, Roger.

Snautzer 13th March 2019 11:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...EAAOSwCy5chfhC


http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=621
Wayne Little id: White 2 W.Nr 170071

Snautzer 13th March 2019 11:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Notice emblem



fw190 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...sAAOSwuaBciEFy


http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=622

RudiS 13th March 2019 12:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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Karoband 13th March 2019 13:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 266111)

Thanks, Snautzer

This new photo of 170071 was taken in May 1946 after scavengers had cleaned up the site allowing a good look at the grenade damage to the engines and the blast effect on the fuselage.

ouidjat 13th March 2019 15:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
170071: I never realized, until now, there was something painted on nose just before the "2".

Marc-André Haldimann 13th March 2019 18:29

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 266125)
170071: I never realized, until now, there was something painted on nose just before the "2".

Possibly an american tag: I see RS*(...) and it is painted over the scorched cannon bay area.

Cheers
Marc

Karoband 14th March 2019 01:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 266125)
170071: I never realized, until now, there was something painted on nose just before the "2".

Hi Franck,

I think you are right. And if you enlarge the picture you will find that the starboard gun access door is flipped up and also has white writing on it.

Jim

ouidjat 14th March 2019 10:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karoband (Post 266149)
Hi Franck,

I think you are right. And if you enlarge the picture you will find that the starboard gun access door is flipped up and also has white writing on it.

Jim


OOOOh Yes!
Thank you Jim.
No need to enlarge the pic to see it; just open the eyes :)
Regards,
Franck.

RudiS 14th March 2019 13:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Photo-...a/153414495148

Dénes Bernád 14th March 2019 13:50

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
This last one is a challenge for me. What type could it be?

RudiS 14th March 2019 15:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád (Post 266164)
This last one is a challenge for me. What type could it be?

I was asking myself the same question.


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