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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 240614)

Me 262 WNr 111691

Regards,
Rudi.

The were only four Me 262 in Erfurt - 110722, 110911, 111614 and 500053, so Erfurt may be wrong for 111691.

Regards,

Heuser

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 240599)

Bf 109 train, near Frankfurt, 30 March 1945.

Cheers
Marc

Marc - if you refer to the train 2 Miles E of Frankfurt (propably Frankfurt-Osthafen), the following Werknummern are known:
G-14: 461954, 780757, 464093, 462927 and an unknow one
G-10: 490675, 490380
K-4: 330491
Four of unknown subtype, all listed as "G"

Regards,

Heuser

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

FWIW, the Fw 190 photos have all been published in WOTBC, so they are known.

Mark Proulx

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Heuser (Post 240637)

Many thanks, Heuser. I wasn't aware of the exact location nor that some of the W.Nr.'s were documented.

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 240636)

#422: So the seller got it wrong. Dan O'Connell's book doesn't give a location for this a/c.

Bf 109 & Fw 190:
https://fm0lqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://fm2mcw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-lot-...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Thanks for those Rudi. Though heavily pixelated, the Bf 109 seems to be Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334 ... "Schwarzer Winkel kleine 1", Lt. Ernst Dieter Bernhard, Stab III./JG 53.
Low on fuel after flying an interception mission between 17h25 and 18h50 on 19 April 1945, Lt. Bernhard elected to land at Kaufbeuren to refuel. The starboard landing gear refused to lower and despite, Berhnard trying to pull it free with sharp pull ups, he finally had to belly land his brand new machine. He did this very smoothly, ending 50 meters away from the airfield's hangar.
Source: Prien 1998, p. 1073 - 1075.

Another shots of this machine is Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 176. You have also the same aircraft in colour here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7631643030771/

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Thanks Guys,

#423 no WNr. known but place is Starnberg. We can see Starnberg's lake in background.
#427. Yep.... Only problem, this photo depict a "Winkel Schwarze (or another colour) 2", not "Winkel schwarze 1"...

Cheers
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Heuser (Post 240637)

Thank You Heuser.

We just have to hope the listed "G" were, effectively, "G" subtype leaving only one K-4 .. if not ... :)

Thank you too for Erfurt listing.

Cheers,
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes