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Stig Jarlevik 29th July 2021 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMa (Post 308594)
Thanks Ed
#3 is N3200/QV, lost with 19 Sqn on 26 May 40. It is a survivor of course, based at Duxford:

It would be interesting to know how (and where) it survived.
All I can locate is that "remains" were recovered in 1986....

Cheers
Stig

AndyMa 29th July 2021 15:02

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Stig,
No doubt it will have been those remains which were "restored".
Andy

edwest2 29th July 2021 17:14

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And thank you Andy for that quick identification.

Alex Smart 29th July 2021 17:28

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2 could be either "QT" - "I" , "J" or "L".
May I suggest ""L".
See this link -
https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fairey-B...0-ebay-04.html

AndyMa 29th July 2021 20:25

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Alex,
I don't think that is the same aircraft. Look at the thickness of the white vertical band on the tail. I do accept that it could have been different on each side, but...
I'm also intrigued to know how the photo you quoted has been identified as QT-L. I think it could also be QT-I or QT-J, as you suggested for the other photo.
Andy

Bertrand H 29th July 2021 22:07

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2 Attachment(s)
Hi,

You are right Andy ; it is QT-I on this old (!) ebay photo : same road tree and code "I"

Attachment 20796


Attachment 20795

Bertrand

edwest2 29th July 2021 22:21

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/284379844208...EAAOSwqORg-DLu
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/284379848897...wAAOSw8nJg-DOX
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/274875351901...oAAOSwzzBg-DGR
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/284379849758...QAAOSwYjhg-DPv
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/124830531627...MAAOSwinZbBCSW
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/304085195011...UAAOSw7zlhAmbZ
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373663065724...wAAOSw1ZFhARMn

edwest2 30th July 2021 00:34

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/154549660923...IAAOSwN45gz2wx
https://www.ebay.de/itm/224552245226...UAAOSwqg9hAyHR

AndyMa 30th July 2021 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bertrand H (Post 308618)
You are right Andy ; it is QT-I on this old (!) ebay photo : same road tree and code "I"

I wonder if this could be K7696:
http://aircrewremembered.com/taylor-...-hamilton.html
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/227706

The terrain in the background looks about right.

Alex Smart 31st July 2021 04:26

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I believe that in post 1687, picture 5

https://www.ebay.de/itm/124830531627...MAAOSwinZbBCSW

Could be a Warwick ASR 1 , of 283 Sqn, BV240 lost on the 18th October 1943.

edwest2 31st July 2021 23:30

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/154550764950...UAAOSwR~hhBD3s
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/124685515232...ampid%3APL_CLK
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/133833791291...YAAOSwqWphBAsG
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224553108299...oAAOSwW2thA~eX
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/384303270731...wAAOSwEFphBEp9

edwest2 2nd August 2021 21:19

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/324735968987...wAAOSwp65hBoV3

edwest2 3rd August 2021 20:59

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144137783498...EAAOSwVPRhCTHI
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144137812733...oAAOSw6vJhCTSb
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144137826245...8AAOSwNRRhCTcD
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/194269477480...cAAOSwaLdhCVV6
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/265249584610...0AAOSw311hBpBu
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/124836159062...0AAOSweeBhCNrr
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/124836151122...IAAOSwuR5hCNfl

Bertrand H 4th August 2021 07:21

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Thanks ED ; #1693_5 Spitfire N3194 "Z" of Bushell

bertrand

marco392 4th August 2021 09:15

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#1693_7 - Fairey Battle 218 Sqn L5235 'HA-W' shot down Thelonne 14th May 1940

edwest2 5th August 2021 22:13

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You're welcome Bertrand.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/393479520230...UAAOSwaRZhCAXN
https://www.ebay.de/itm/384311995089...QAAOSwxPdhCtJq
https://www.ebay.de/itm/373671315143...QAAOSwHH5hCtIe

Tom Willis 6th August 2021 03:43

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Thanks Ed
Post 1696
Could the 1st photo show a wrecked Yugoslavian AF SM79 (No13)

edwest2 7th August 2021 22:58

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You're welcome Tom.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/224563279318...0AAOSwgb5hDldw
https://www.ebay.de/itm/154559716315...MAAOSwtdRhDXlb
https://www.ebay.de/itm/154559710837...gAAOSw8KthDXc1

marco392 8th August 2021 20:33

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3 photos of Hurricanes

https://www.ebay.de/itm/15.....vxB
https://www.ebay.de/itm/15....CF1
https://www.ebay.de/itm/353...D9jh

edwest2 8th August 2021 22:56

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144139771454...0AAOSwBh5hCtkw
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144139736713...wAAOSwNZ1hCtX8
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144139727832...wAAOSwwxJhCtTc
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/144139756589...4AAOSwobhhCteF
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/174880547722...AAAOSwgCVhEAKd
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/313631414541...cAAOSwKqVg9-Ht
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224564482488...kAAOSwNphhD8cQ
  8. https://www.ebay.de/itm/384318290383...8AAOSwrXhhD3Hk
  9. Off topic
  10. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224532766218...8AAOSwb-Ng7Urg

Von Alles 9th August 2021 09:16

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post #1691 pic 2 : not a MS-500 but a Cessna L-19 from the french army, probably in the 60's.

edwest2 10th August 2021 18:37

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/255083141220...kAAOSwXdlhD5NH

edwest2 10th August 2021 18:53

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/353617202811...0AAOSwUsphAB5j
https://www.ebay.de/itm/353617145805...EAAOSw0iJhEmJm
https://www.ebay.de/itm/353617142961...UAAOSwAiVhEmGT
https://www.ebay.de/itm/224566811143...0AAOSw0EVhEkKv
https://www.ebay.de/itm/313632017451...IAAOSwTZFhEOPF

edwest2 11th August 2021 19:38

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/363502285428...wAAOSwokdhE5A0
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224568027108...IAAOSwkGhhE5Wv
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/203531628262...EAAOSwR2hg98d3
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/363500399653...AAAOSw1JphEida
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/353617616426...oAAOSwskphErYC
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/313632032914...UAAOSwVoNhEOrJ

Bertrand H 12th August 2021 08:20

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tnx Ed ,

#1704_3 : same photo is page 152 in the book on GC III/3 (2019, LELA presse) ; it is n°171 abandoned at Romilly on 13/06/1940 by Sgt Claireaux.

edwest2 13th August 2021 03:20

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501486487...cAAOSw1mVhFPaU
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681933844...cAAOSwHxJhFPaK
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501485028...cAAOSwvo5hFPaG
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681933752...QAAOSwpfJhFPaD
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501484608...IAAOSwU05hFPZ~
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501484561...IAAOSwUpZhFPZ9
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681933018...MAAOSwVWxhFPZz
  8. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681932656...UAAOSwIJhhFPZx
  9. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501484151...YAAOSwf6lhFPZt
  10. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501484104...YAAOSw6OhhFPZp
  11. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931884...UAAOSwj19hFPZn
  12. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931835...cAAOSwBbphFPZl
  13. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931679...8AAOSwItBhFPZd
  14. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931637...EAAOSwkZlhFPZc
  15. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931512...0AAOSww5NhFPZU
  16. gttps://www.ebay.de/itm/393501892105?hash=item5b9e8a5e09:g:xfkAAOSwVJthFTG F
  17. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681931214...kAAOSwc5NhFPZH
  18. https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501483588...IAAOSw~ClhFPY1
  19. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681930595...4AAOSwvTNhFPYq
  20. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681930453...EAAOSwCrxhFPYm
  21. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681930390...IAAOSw8MNhFPYi
  22. https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681838211...EAAOSwbFdhFOXt

Martin Gleeson 13th August 2021 14:46

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Ed,

An amazing haul of Fairey Battle and Bristol Blenheim photos. I think some new wrecks to me and lots of equally valuable new angles on others. Many thanks yet again.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.

paulmcmillan 13th August 2021 15:34

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501892105...fkAAOSwVJthFTG

Date: 17-MAY-1940
Time: 06:30
Type: Bristol Blenheim Mk IV
Owner/operator: 82 (United Provinces) Squadron Royal Air Force (82 (United Provinces) Sqn RAF)
Registration: P4904

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/141362

http://aircrewremembered.com/watkins-thomas-john.html

paulmcmillan 13th August 2021 15:35

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Is that a Hurricane at the back?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/373681933844...cAAOSwHxJhFPaK

edwest2 13th August 2021 17:18

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Martin,


You're most welcome. I can't post them if they are not there. I was just as amazed at this haul of photos. It's usually minnows but this was an unexpected catch.


Regards,
Ed West

edwest2 13th August 2021 17:29

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Correction to above.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/393501892105...kAAOSwVJthFTGF

AndyMa 13th August 2021 17:34

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I can only echo, great find.


#1 looks like UX-N, with the serial appearing to end in 2. Ideas anyone?
#7 QT-H of 142 Sqn also has me stumped.

Martin Gleeson 13th August 2021 21:47

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Paul,

Re. #1709. I'm out of my depth here dealing with French aircraft but that second wreck is also a MS.406. Right now I am looking at a copy of the AVIONS Hors-Serie No. 24 'La Debacle de mai-juin 1940' by Denes Bernad, Christophe Cony and Michel Ledet. It is a softback publication with captions in French and English devoted to photographs of wrecked or abandoned French aircraft, all taken by German soldiers during and after the campaign.
I think there are two photos of the near Morane on page 21. The location is Cambrai airfield after it was abandoned on 17 May 1940. The aircraft is identified as No. 918 '2' of GC III/2 and the pilot was a Lt. Lechat.

Regards,

Martin.

paulmcmillan 13th August 2021 21:53

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Martin thanks for looking into this and so not a Hurricane ! Thanks

Martin Gleeson 14th August 2021 12:45

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Ed,

for your post #1706.

1/ Blenheim R3618 UX-N, 82 Sqn., lost 8-6-1940.
3/ Battle K9273 HA-R, 218 Sqn., abandoned Auberieve-sur-Suippes airfield 15-5-1940.
7/ Battle QT-H, 142 Sqn. Probably L5440 though not certain. Probably one of the few 142 Sqn. aircraft with the serials overpainted. Abandoned at Berry-au-Bac airfield 16-5-1940.
9/ Blenheim UX-Z, 82 Sqn. Probably P6925, lost 13-6-1940 (belly-landed).
The only other 'UX-Z' Blenheims around this period that I can find are;
R3800, lost 13-8-1940 (offshore) and
T2163, lost 11-1-1941 (probably lost at sea).
10/ Blenheim UX- of 82 Squadron. ID unknown.
11/ Blenheim YH-A R2780, 11 Sqn., abandoned Larissa in Greece April 1941
13 & 14/ Battle L5231 QT-G, 142 Sqn., lost 10-5-1940.
17/ Battle PH-P L5190. 12 Sqn., lost 10-5-1940.
22/ Battle P2203 HA- . 218 Sqn., lost 11-5-1940.

Regards,

Martin.

AndyMa 14th August 2021 13:40

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Martin,
Thanks for the extra information.
Regarding #9, Blenheim P4843 (lost 7 July 1940, crashed in Germany) was also UX-Z I believe, althought it is unlikely to be a candidate for this photo.
Andy

Martin Gleeson 14th August 2021 20:05

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Andy,

I have P4843 as UX-J, based on multiple entries in the Watton ORB (AIR 28/902).

Martin.

edwest2 14th August 2021 20:32

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Martin,


Thank you for the additional information.


Best,
Ed

edwest2 14th August 2021 21:27

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/154567334107...MAAOSwtdRhDXlb
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224545690421...EAAOSwrFZg-9Ni
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/203534912998...8AAOSwx1Ng-89W
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/203534914357...4AAOSwlDZg-8~B
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/203534901687...0AAOSw3fJg-8le
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224545653252...MAAOSwp2Rg-8d1
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/203534896473...0AAOSwZclg-8e2
  8. https://www.ebay.de/itm/224571770925...oAAOSwLv9hF4Ou
  9. https://www.ebay.de/itm/284398748370...UAAOSwBB5hDPzy
  10. https://www.ebay.de/itm/274893629211...4AAOSw2ilhDPyc
  11. https://www.ebay.de/itm/284398740296...UAAOSwkiVhDPqq
  12. https://www.ebay.de/itm/274893616911...MAAOSwgtJhDPea
  13. https://www.ebay.de/itm/274893621361...oAAOSwahRhDPlw

Bertrand H 15th August 2021 06:59

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thanks ED for this (again!) long list

#1719_5 : MS406 N°479, N497, GC III/1. Forced landed on 26 may 1940

#1719_6 : Amiot 143 n°113


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