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Matolion 1st August 2021 21:54

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 308734)
It's hard to tell, but likely. It is unclear, however, in which way these markings had been allocated to the different schools.

Most often, TS+MB is allocated to Fliegertechnische Schule 3 in München (because a lot of TS+MB-marked planes were captured there).

These Fw 190s marked TS+MA are said to have been captured at Bayreuth-Bindlach. But there was no Fliegertechnische Schule stationed in Bayreuth. Also, at least one of the Fw 190s in the photos up there is clearly not marked TS+MA, but rather also TS+MB (or +MR, +MD, +MP?).

To complicate matters even further, photos from Fassberg at the war's end show at least one of the planes from Fliegertechnische Schule 2 marked "FTS", which stands for Fliegertechnische Schule I guess - and does not fit in with the TS+Mx markings practice. So yes, TS+Mx indicates some school, but there are many uncertainties about further details..


Why do you think there was no Fliegertechnische Schule in Bayreuth-Bindlach?
There was Fliegertechnische Schule 6 (1940 – Apr 45)
https://www.ww2.dk/Airfields%20-%20Germany%20[1937%20Borders].pdf

spektor 1st August 2021 22:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi.

The stripped fuselage in the foreground in the photo is a teaching aid for aircraft mechanics.

Marcel van Heijkop 1st August 2021 23:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 308722)
Re post #4663, I don't remember seeing that rack under the outer wing on other Ju 88's. Was it a standard conversion?

I have only seen it before as attachment point for the outer external fuel tank of the "Eisenhammer configuration" on some Ju 88 S-3s of I./KG66 in March 1945. No idea if this configuration was already an existing (sleeping) conversion and included in the Ju 88 drawings (and just waiting to be activated) or that it was specifically designed at the last moment for Unternehmen Eisenhammer and/or I./KG66's Ju 88 S-3s...

Does anybody know if recce Ju 88s carried external tanks at this position?..

Regards,

Marcel

ChristianK 1st August 2021 23:54

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matolion (Post 308744)
Why do you think there was no Fliegertechnische Schule in Bayreuth-Bindlach?
There was Fliegertechnische Schule 6 (1940 – Apr 45)
https://www.ww2.dk/Airfields%20-%20Germany%20[1937%20Borders].pdf

Oops, I actually missed that - you are absolutely correct, sorry.

RudiS 2nd August 2021 14:47

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https://i.ibb.co/8KXN6jt/types-312.jpg


https://www.ebay.com/itm/22455578054...IAAOSwni5hBwLl

RudiS 2nd August 2021 14:49

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https://i.ibb.co/9bB17Pw/Do-217-004.jpg


https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455336164...wAAOSwGuNhByw5

David E. Brown 2nd August 2021 20:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
With respect to the photos of the Fw 190 A-4s “TS+MA” and TS+MB” in posts 4664 and 4665, the location is at Bayreuth-Bindlach. There are several photos of both these machines from the late Jim Crow’s collection confirming the location.

Best,

David

jim norton 3rd August 2021 12:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel van Heijkop (Post 308751)
I have only seen it before as attachment point for the outer external fuel tank of the "Eisenhammer configuration" on some Ju 88 S-3s of I./KG66 in March 1945. No idea if this configuration was already an existing (sleeping) conversion and included in the Ju 88 drawings (and just waiting to be activated) or that it was specifically designed at the last moment for Unternehmen Eisenhammer and/or I./KG66's Ju 88 S-3s...

Does anybody know if recce Ju 88s carried external tanks at this position?..

Regards,

Marcel


hi marcel,
maybe this ju88 also belongs to II./LG 1. these ju88 were also fitted with ETC under the wings (like L1+BM and others)...
all the best
jim

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd August 2021 17:24

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Location is Gefechtslandeplatz Naumburg/Saale, near Bad Kösen.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 4th August 2021 10:14

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https://i.ibb.co/zm2CyGt/Fw-190-337.jpg


https://www.ebay.com/itm/39348284958...sAAOSw7DhhCdcj


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