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Post 1919 # 4
Could this be Blenheim P6901 of 40 Sqn, lost on 10 May 40 on a raid to Ypenburg? Two of the crew were killed, the other taken POW. |
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29-MAY-1940 Hawker Hurricane Mk 1 56 Sqn N2659 US-T https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/228559 |
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I know 4 other photos of that Hurri Mariusz |
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Out of interest, is the serial N2659 clearly visible on any of your photos Mariusz?
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give me @ I will send you M. |
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#1 is Battle K9485 of 105 Sqn, shot down on 12 May 40. All three crew were killed
#5 I feel I ought to recognise Blenheim RT-(L?) of 114 Sqn, but it eludes me. Anyone? |
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#5 and 6 are photos of two interesting Blenheims. I cannot prove it for certain but I believe the location is Crecy airfield and that the Blenheims are in adjoining fields, based on some other photos that I have seen. #5 is N6146 RT-L, formerly of 114 Squadron and handed over to 18 Squadron on 19 May 1940 - who promptly abandoned it at Crecy. From memory 18 Squadron had a shortage of pilots to evacuate their own Blenheims to England on the 19th and 20th. RT-L is more commonly seen in photos in various states of wreckage in a wood, probably the one in the background, but only one photo clearly showed the serial as N6146. The Form 78 records its last owner as 82 Squadron, but this is an error. #6 is an 18 Squadron aircraft based on the unit code, and also seems to be at Crecy. I have not seen a serial on any image of it but one could maybe make out 'L....' on one photo. Note the wood in the background. Another old EBay photo seems to show what looks like a Blenheim in the field behind it, possibly N6146 RT-L above in #5. All that said it is known that Blenheim L9191 of 18 Squadron crashed on landing at Crecy early on May 19th. So very likely this photo shows L9191. If only we could see the serial in a clearer image ! Hopefully one will turn up some day. These two photos do help to identify a little more these two aircraft. Thanks Ed. Regards, Martin Gleeson. |
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Martin Agree #6 is an L....
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Martin,
Thanks for the extra information. N6146 was not SOC until 1 Nov 41 according to the Air-Britain serials book, so it must have taken them a while to realise it had been lost. Andy |
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You're welcome Martin. Best, Ed |
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overturned Hurricane - I think I saw other views of that Hurri
https://www.ebay.de/itm/15477510...uXxhz0ZW |
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Another set of interesting images Ed.
#8 is Spitfire K9964/SH-W of 64 Sqn, which forced landed at Calais on 15 Aug 40 - pilot POW #10 is Battle L5234/PM-B of 103 Sqn, abandoned at Bétheniville in May 40. #11 is Battle K9273/HA-R of 218 Sqn, abandoned at Auberive in May 40. Other photos of this show the serial clearly. |
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3 of the 4 in the previous two posts are described as being taken in France.
They of course show Belgian aircraft (Fiat CR.42, Fairey Firefly etc) |
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Many Belgian a/c did flee to French airfields |
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However both R-21 and R-27 (CR.42) were heavily damaged in a Stuka attack on Nivelles airfield 10 May 1940 The two Morane 230 seems to be inside the same hangar at the same airfield. Unfortunately their (or is it one and the same?) tail numbers are not readable. Cheers Stig |
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Yes, perhaps I should have been more specific. These images were taken in Belgium, as Stig says.
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Thanks Ed ; #1938_1
A quick look of Avions Hors-série N° 18 L’Aéronautique Militaire belge en mai-juin 1940 by Peter Taghon page 64 certainly show the right side of Ms236 n°7 |
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#1946 2 is a great Photo Hudson 'F' - Surely must be identifiable ?
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Hudson I P5146 NR°X 220Sq force-landed in France 19410402.
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Yes it’s an “R” thanks for the ID though |
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Sweden could hardly be called an Allied during WW 2. I suppose we tried to stay neutral as best as we could, but mostly only managed to turn our sail by the wind..... It is clearly a pre-war photo since it carries the marking instructions from 1927 which were changed in 1932 when, among other things, the Fokkers should carry four digit serial numbers/codes This aircraft carries a three digit serial/code and beside the obvious 3, the next one could be either another 3 or a 5 while the final one is probably a 2, meaning we are looking at either 332 or 352. Both had a long life, so no help there. Cheers Stig PS: This photo should rightly be transferred to the pre WW 2 section |
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Well, I didn't know. Thank you for the additional information.
Best, Ed |
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http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...2354#post22354 and photo in better days: https://www.akpool.co.uk/postcards/2...-us-army-p5146 Faenor |
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I suppose this is one of the good points with TOCH as such. We can't know everything single handed, but together we can make a difference! Cheers Stig |
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#5 showing Battle QT-H is usually said to be L5440 of 142 Sqn, abandoned at Berry-au-Bac c 16 May 40.
Confirmation anyone? |
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There is part of a serial visible on that Hurricane #1957 Post 2
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