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Evgeny Velichko 21st April 2008 19:00

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Hi!

According Tony Woods list:

Oblt. Walter Borchers, had 10 victories with 4 Staffel;
Oblt. Wilhelm Hobein also had 10 victories, but with 5 Staffel.

Very bad situation with III./ZG 26m very few information.

And I even not talking about ZG 2 - both formations are almost completely unknown - I mean claims, StaKa's, e.t.c... Even base airfields of Second formations contain mistakes - for example, Svoboda airfield was never being German, but it is stated as "base of I./ZG 2" in summer 1942.

Oblt. Hantel, from III./ZG 26, was StaKa of one of the Staffel, and was KiA in late August 1943. Which Staffel did he belonged?

robert 21st April 2008 20:56

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Hi Evgeny,

II/ZG76 CO - Hptm. Walter Schmidt-Coste 01.0939-31.12.39
Maj.Erich Groth 01.01.40 - ????

4/ZG76 - Olt.Friedrich-Karl Rhinow 01.09.39 - 1940
5/ZG76 - Olt.Walter Grommes 01.09.39- 1940
6/ZG76 - Olt.Heinz Nacke 01.09.39 - 1940

I/ZG52 - Hptm.Wilhelm Lessmann 01.09.39 (till 06.01.40 it was JGr.152)
1/ZG52 - Olt.Dietrich von Bothmer 01.09.39 - 1940
2/ZG52 - Hptm.Horst Liesensberger 01.09.39 - 1940
3/ZG52 - Olt.Emil Schnoor 01.09.39 - 1940

III/ZG26 - Maj.Johannes Schalk 01.09.39 - 1940 (till 04.02.40 it was JGr.126)
7/ZG26 - Olt.Kurt Heinrich 01.09.39 - 1940
8/ZG26 - Olt.Karl-Heinz "Conny" Meyer 01.09.39 - 1940
9/ZG26 - Olt.Karl Montag 01.09.39 - 1940

1/ZG2 - Olt.Waldemar von Roon 01.09.39 - 06.11.39 KIA
NN 06.11.39 - 13.12.39
Hptm. Armin Ettling 13.12.39 - 1940
2/ZG2 - Olt.Erich Groth 22.09.39 - 31.12.39
Olt.Hans-Peter Kuelbel 01.12.39 - 1940
3/ZG2 - Olt.Josef Kellner-Steinmetz 22.09.39 - 06.11.39 KIA
Olt.Eberhard Sauer 07.11.39 - 05.01.40
Olt.Hans Roederer 05.01.40 - 1940

Regards

Robert

Evgeny Velichko 22nd April 2008 05:13

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Robert - as usual, thank You very much :)

byron- 22nd April 2008 07:17

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Evgeni,

take a look hier

http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-4...ers-Walter.htm

Seite Kriegsbeginn gegen Polen gehörte er der 5. Staffel des Zerstörergeschwaders 76 an, wo er im Herbst 1940 den Posten des Kapitäns übernahm. Während des West-Feldzuges und der Luftschlacht über England im Einsatz schoss Borchers mit als Zerstörer beachtliche 10 Gegner vom Himmel.
Im Herbst 1941 wird seine Staffel in die 8. Staffel des Nachtjagdgeschwaders 3 überführt, wo Borchers erst in der Nacht vom 03. auf dem 04.03.1943 seinen ersten Nachtabschuss erringen konnte. Die folgenden vier Abschüsse errang er im gleichen Jahr, jedoch am Tag, gegen Viermot-US-Bomber.

byron- 22nd April 2008 15:29

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
hier another link about Oblt. Holbein

Zum Fliegerführer ernannt, führte Junck nun das Sonderkommando Junck. Der Transportverband stand unter dem Befehl von Major Pinagel.

Er verfügte über drei Ju 90 und zehn Ju 52. Hinzu kamen neun He 111 und zwölf Me 110. Hauptmann Schwanhäußer führte die 4./KG 4 mit den He 111, während die Me 110-Staffel unter ihrem Kapitän Oberleutnant Hobein stand. Es handelte sich um die 4./ZG 76.


see www.nexusboard.net/showthread.php?siteid=6365&threadid=241361 :)

Evgeny Velichko 1st May 2008 20:52

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Pz.Jg.St./ZG 1

6.43 - 8.43 Lt. Werner Mihatsch (Staffel disbanded)

Evgeny Velichko 1st May 2008 21:30

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Quote:

1/ZG52 - Olt.Dietrich von Bothmer
He flew in Spain among very first pilots of Condor Legion, and as far as I know, had 2 victoryes.

What was his career after he left I./ZG 52?

Evgeny Velichko 2nd May 2008 18:19

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
Found recently:

Rettberg joined ZG 26 in 1937 and was promoted Squadron Commander of 1./ZG 26 on 1 April 1940. Shortly afterwards he was promoted Group Commander II./ZG26.

Bu who was StaKa 1./ZG 26 from 1 Sept. 39 to 1 April 40?


Also, what StaKa were:
Quote:

V.(Z)/KG 40

13./KG40
14./KG40
15./KG40
16./KG40
?

Evgeny Velichko 3rd May 2008 19:06

Re: Zerstorer StaKa list:
 
I Gruppe Zerstörergeschwader 52

1/ZG 52

01 September 39 – ?? ?? 40 - Oblt.Dietrich von Bothmer ???(Staffel renamed 4./ZG 2)

2/ZG 52

01 September 39 – 15 April 40 - Hptm.Horst Liesensberger ( moved to Gr.Kdr. V.(Z)/LG 1 )
15 April 40 - 26 June 40 - Hptm. Adolf Schuldt ??? (Staffel renaimed 5./ZG 2)


3/ZG 52

01 September 39 - 22 April 40 - Oblt.Emil Schnoor (moved to StaKa 15.(Z)/LG 1)
22 April 40 – 26 June 40 - ???? (Staffel renamed 6./ZG 2)

---------------------------------
It may be mistake, but:

Are Oblt.Dietrich von Bothmer and Hptm Conrad von Bothmer the same person?



Zerstörergeschwader 2 (first formation)

1./ZG2
1 September 39 - 6 November 39 - Oblt. Waldemar von Roon - (KiA, Bf109D-1, shot down by Hawk-75A of GCII/5 at river Saar area)
6 November 39 – 13 December 39 - NN
13 December 39 - ?? ?? 40 - Hptm. Armin Ettling (???)
?? ?? 40 - 20 May 40 - Oblt. Fritz Lüdders (KiA, Bf110C)
20 May 40 - 25 August 40 - Oblt. Gerhard Götz (PoW, Bf110C)
25 August 40 - ???? (Staffel disbanded)


2./ZG2
1 September 39 - 31 December 39 - Oblt. Erich Groth ( moved to Gr.Kdr. II./ZG 76)
1 January 40 – 11 August 40 - Hptm. Hans-Peter Külbel (moved to acting Gr.Kdr. I./ZG 2)
11 August 40 - ??? (Staffel disbanded)


3./ZG2
1 September 39 - 6 November 39 - Oblt. Josef Kellner-Steinmetz (KiA, Bf109D-1, shot down by Hawk-75A of GCII/5 at river Saar area)
07 November 39 – 05 January 40 - Olt.Eberhard Sauer (?)
05 January 40 – ?? ?? 40 - Olt.Hans Röderer (?)


4./ ZG 2
26 June 40 - ???? (Staffel disbanded)

5./ZG 2
26 June 40 - 30 august 40 - Hptm. Adolf Schuldt (KiA, Bf110D-0, shot down by RAF fighters)
30 august 40 - September 40 - ???? (Staffel disbanded)


6./ZG 2
26 June 40 - ???? (Staffel disbanded)


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