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Re: HE111 I. D. markings help?
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Re: HE111 I. D. markings help?
He 111H-6, 4962, n.n., , , , Fl.Ber.G.L., , , , , 02-Apr-44, Bruchlandung., , Lfl.Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/778, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.117, , Johannisthal, 15%, H, , ,
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Re: HE111 I. D. markings help?
Jim P, same info as in reply #7.
Photo likely taken full year later, in my opinion, but unit may have stayed the same. -Ed |
Re: HE111 I. D. markings help?
"RT" and "Jim P" apparently have access to the German archives Luftwaffe info in section RL 2 III/778 that lists HE111-H #4962 to be crashed with 15% damage in 02 Apr 44 and assigned to the transport unit for high officers (Fl. Bereitschaft G. L.) at Berlin-Johannistal airfield.
Perhaps the plane got repaired and moved. The photo clearly shows US troops at the destroyed plane probably at a later date (since US troops were not at Berlin at end of war). I have to conclude that the plane unit assignment and final location are not fully known at this time. A neat mystery. This has been a very fun project for me. Many thanks to all that helped with it. |
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This is normaly referred to as "The Schulen" losses, against "Fighting units" were in a different series of records (reports), issued by GQM 4.Abt. on dayly bases thrughout the European War 1939/1945. http://i68.tinypic.com/2qal8uq.jpg -Ed PS. Writing "HE111-H" is incorrect, as they could tell you in school, proper writing is one of keys to (good) research. Correct writing is " He 111 H " - because manufacturer (factory) Heinkel was abbrevated by the German Air Ministry to just Capital "H" and lower case "e" and sub-version here was "H" - that differed from, for example, the He 111 P - by the type and version of engines used. The He 111 H-6 had 2 x Jumo 211 J engines with VS II wooden bladed propellers, and incidentally the H-6 was basically a Level-Bomber or Torpedo Bomber, and not a transport, altho it was easily converted to many roles.. Unit flying/using W.Nr. 4962 in April 1944 was correctly the "Flugbereit Generalluftzeugmeister" who incidentally was Chief of the RLM. |
Re: HE111 I. D. markings help?
Thanks for the proper nomenclature and the archive page copy for He 111 H-6 Wnr. 4962.
Now if someone could recognize the buildings and background of the airfield the destroyed plane resides in I would know about all the info you could get on the aircraft. Chances there one in a very large number. Still a very fun journey and very educational for me. |
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