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You're right, Marc. It is a Ju 52/3m by its tail! Thank you for the location of the second attachment.

Matolion, thank you for finding the location of the first,

Jim

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The D-9 could be - based on the camouflage pattern - from the Focke-Wulf production line but it is the first time I see a Dora with a solid black fuselage cross!

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ChristanK and Schlageter,

Regarding the D-9, we have both W.Nr. 210231 and 601058 listed as "ausgeschlachtet" in the relevant A.I.2(g) report dated 14 April 1945. Five other burnt out D-9's are accounted for without W.Nr.

Cheers
Marc

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There is a A.I.2 report on Erfurt-Bindersleben? Thanks Marc, I did not know this! :) Is the Fw 190 A in my photo also mentioned?

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Thanks to the pointer of Kari Lumppio in the Staaken Bf 109 thread, here some photos from the Estonian archives showing:

A Fw 189 wreck possibly from 1.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 31, found at E.-Hafen Wesenberg -Rakvere which was captured 20 September 1944 by the Russian army. photo is dated October 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814a0c0d2cd

At the same location, a trashed Ju 87 D center section with a Fw 189 fin in the background:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814b70dbf84

The remains of a Fw 190 F-8, possibly from I./SG 5, also at at E.-Hafen Wesenberg -Rakvere, October 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814bed3f613

One or more II./JG 54 Fw 190 A-8 wrecks and abandoned AB 250's in the vicinity of the Landeplatz Turgel-Türi (called Särevere airfield in the caption), near Järvamaa, 12 November 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814675aa396
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608147095a512
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608147b52c770
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814732c37de

This other set does show another Fw 190 F-8 "Schwarze B", III./SG 3, found wrecked at Fl.Pl. Oberpahlen- Pöltsamaa and photographed By Hans Tölpt in December 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148006ef18
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92

And one unknown biplane wreck, also found at the same location and photographed by Hans Tölpt in december 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92

Cheers
Marc

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Hallo!

That unknown biplane could be Ar 66 from 3./NSGr 11 (Estonians), but that is mere a guess.

Cheers,
Kari

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Thanks for this tentative ID, Kari - and thanks so much for the pointer on this highly interesting Estonian archive !

Cheers
Marc

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Hi there Gang,

Some new photos from the Russian archives. Location is Fl.Pl. Petsamo Luostari, after being overrun by the Russian Army, 15 October 1944.
https://vk.com/albums-140181428?z=ph...-9d3DAKQWTO0iA
https://vk.com/albums-140181428?fbcl...otos-140181428

Cheers
Marc

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Hi there folks,

Some photos from the New-Zealand archives:

Fassberg, April 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Possibly Fassberg ?
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Rheine, April 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Copenhagen-Kastrup, May 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...DMesserschmitt
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...%3Fq%3DSheddan

Cheers
Marc

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A few photos taken during the European Tour of US Congress members, Summer 1945:

Hofoldinger Forst Me 262 A W.Nr. 111685 "9K+FH", 1./KG 51 - with my thanks to Matolion for this identification:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100014...in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100014...in/dateposted/

He 111 H W.Nr. 8037 "??+EM" :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100014...in/dateposted/

Bf 109 G-14/AS, JG 53:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100014...in/dateposted/

Cheers
Marc

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The Heinkel looks as if it's W.Nr. 8037 (or possibly 8057) — see attached image detail.

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It's indeed 8037. This is He 111 H-16 S3+EM which was captured in Mönchengladbach (which was called München-Gladbach back then). A plane which has been photographed very often but this is the first time I see its Werknummer. Now that this is known, the Stammkennzeichen SM+KD can be decyphered on its wing undersides (it was partly overpainted). Thanks Marc and Nick!

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Thanks to you ChristianK, and to Nick, of course; one more case settled.

Cheers
Marc

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It was H-11 according to W.Nr.

He 111H-11 7955-8155 Rostock
He 111H-16 8156-8355 Rostock

Aero Journal Hors-serie No.28, 2017

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A machine in 4./TGr. 30 markings that late in the war is interesting because the Staffel itself didn't exist by then, as far as I know.

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Dear Gang,

Though known since a long time, here again a few photos made by R. H. Dibnah during his service time, most probably in Germany, Spring 1945. First, the known locations:

Fw 190 A-8 W.Nr. 350210 "Weisse 5", II./JG 54, found at Lüneburg, April 1945:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 332700 (the one-winged) and W.Nr. 330255 "Schwarzer Winkel, Stab III./JG 27, both found at Wunstorf, 8 April 1945:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Si 204 D, Wunstorf, 8 April 1945:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Ju 87 D "??+J?" and Ju 88, Wunstorf, after 19 April 1945:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Now for the location unknown ones:

Fw 190 and Fw 200 :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Ar 234 half destroyed and put up as a decoy:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 24", 1./JG 27:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

Any ideas ?

Cheers
Marc

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Ju 87 D "??+J?" and Ju 88, Wunstorf, after 19 April 1945

Ju 87 D-5 Werk Nummer 140736, V8+JB of 1./NSG 1 (Nord).

Ar 234 half destroyed and put up as a decoy

T9+KH (W.Nr. 140349), almost certainly the “Me 262” claimed on the ground at Rheine by F/L Dick Audet of No. 411 Squadron (RCAF) on 23 January 1945.

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Thanks so much, Nick ! It is highly appreciated.

Now we have only the Bf 109 K-4 "Weisse 24", the Fw 190 and the Fw 200 seen on the other photos to localise.

Cheers
Marc

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Isn't this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/
the other side of WNr. 350210?

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If you scroll down a bit that is also the opinion of our own Steve Scheflin
Only difference seems to be the actual colour of the digit 5.....

Cheers (or perhaps in this case Respectfully Yours)
Stig

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Post 177 - Ju 87 D "??+J?" and Ju 88, Wunstorf, after 19 April 1945:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/230571...7610334641015/

The Ju 88 A-5 is F1+EU of 10./IV./KG 76.

David

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A nice set of photos (click + zoom!) from Brüsterort airfield. Source is Museum Berlin-Karlshorst.

https://berlin.museum-digital.de/object/74488
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/object/74487
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/object/74485
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/object/74486

Cheers,
Christian

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Thanks for those, Christian. Unusual camouflage on the wings of that Fw 190 "12 – +".

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Nick,

Possibly replacement wings from another Fw 190? As I recall, when spare parts were no longer available, parts from other nearby aircraft that were no longer serviceable were used.

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Thank you Christian !

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I found this photo during a routine search for other interests and thought it may be of interest.



https://i.postimg.cc/fb5gMkYw/20027513.jpg
Description: Women's Army Corps Private Betty Jones, left, receiving telegram from First Lieutenant Kathryn Leach of the Red Cross Motor Corps. Miss Leach handing Mrs. Jones a letter from her husband, Lieutenant Colonel Richard I. Jones, who was captured at Panay and is a prisoner of war in Japan. The delivery was made at Farrington Field where Jones is helping set up the United States Army Air Forces (AAF) "Shot From the Sky" exhibit. The two women are standing in front of an airplane. Star-Telegram Morning Edition February 28, 1945.


https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20027513

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Thank you for this find.


Note how close to the canopy the black cross is painted. This is the famous (?) Bf 109 F-4 having a Red (?) 19 painted behind the cross, a white band around the fuselage and a large Swastika re-painted on rudder. I have no other informations.


Regards,
Franck.