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stefaan 6th December 2007 20:15

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Hi Guys.
I found new info after phoning a 24 sqdn gunner that was in 24 SAAF.
He has a similar photo. He says it was taken at LG 99, which was just behind Alexandria after the push at Alamein.
24 sqdn was with 12 sqdn in 3 Wing SAAF, and will have shared bases.
Hope it helps
Stefaan

Jesters-Ink 2nd February 2008 01:55

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Wow its not been that long since I checked back here for more info and seen no updates, but tonight I see there is plenty, many thanks guys for your input.

The profile for this AC is still on hold whilst all the data is being gathered.

I have a new headache I would like to pose to you gentlemen seeing as you tend to know your onions.

I've been asked to produce 2 profiles of "Grafs" Bf109G-5-6, whilst he was with JG/50r.

After talking with many people on this subject this is what I have so far.
Works numbers would be a real handy thing to have for both AC if anyone out there has then?

Once again, thanks for the info on the triple chevron white 4.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/JeSTeRs//grafs.jpg

Hi Goran, I have read through all of your post regarding <<< white 4 with much interest, you have covered quite a bit of ground with your last post.
I’d be happy to continue discussing this further through e-mail or msn if you are interested?

Here is the update on Trip Chev Wht 4---->
I'm with Goran, I think the white band on the nose is from top to bottm, it looks like the lower engine cover has been removed.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/JeSTeRs//109G2wht4Hs.jpg
And a new Bf109G-6.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/JeSTeRs//G-6-20s.jpg

Jesters-Ink 24th February 2008 22:07

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Thanks guys.
In the end I had to put my trust in some of the large names getting it right as far as Grafs aircraft goes.

***F19-Gladiator, you have put so much effort into "White 4" I think it only fair I offer you a print on the house, so which would you like?***

Here is an updated list of works ready to go to press.
http://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...-2 croatia.jpghttp://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...omanian-a1.jpg
http://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...9G-2trop4a.jpghttp://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...9G-2trop6a.jpg
http://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...trop 365-1.jpghttp://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...G-6 364-1a.jpg
http://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...anzisket-a.jpghttp://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...-6 Gold 0a.jpg
http://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...chilling-a.jpghttp://www.dogfighters.net/phoenix-a...G-6R2 Graf.jpg

F19Gladiator 25th February 2008 14:03

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Hi 'Jesters-Ink'!
I'd go for the "White Tripple Chevron 4" of course! ;)

Very generous of you! I'll PM you my email address etc.

I am still following the trace of the Ju 88 L1+EH seen next to the Bf 109 in question, trying to locate the airfield if possible. I posted a question over at LEMB forum recently but no one seems to be able to help out yet. :blink: I'll come back regarding this Ju 88 connection later....

I believe a big thank you shall go to Stefaan in South Africa as he was kind to share some very interesting information with us which are key elements in my "armchair research" and ID theory of this Bf 109. Thanks Stefaan!

Cheers
Goran

Jim P. 25th February 2008 15:29

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
The WNr. number of one of Graf's 109Gs with JGr. 50 was 15919. This is confirmed via a photo in Bregstrom's book on Graf & Grislawski published by Eagle Editions. Graf had at least 2 different 109s.

Jesters-Ink 27th February 2008 09:15

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
I 'd be happy to offer Stefaan the same if he is interested.

Falcon 22nd July 2010 16:58

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Here is an other photo of the "Trip. Chev. wht. 4", also with written informations on the photo. Date is given with 29. oct 1942.

http://www.joewillis.co.uk/JAWillis/...1942%20jpg.jpg

ouidjat 22nd July 2010 23:32

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
Hre is another photo of the same plane you forgot David. Definitely there is no JG27 emblem!
Thanks David.
http://www.joewillis.co.uk/JAWillis/...aid%201943.jpg

Cheers, Franck.

thenelm 23rd July 2010 00:40

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
There wouldn't be since that is a JG 77 machine!!!

ouidjat 23rd July 2010 02:12

Re: Hauptmann Gustav Rodel's G-4 help please
 
:D Another way to say it! But since some were (are?) still not convinced, better to say it with a picture no one had see before.


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