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Snautzer 30th November 2017 22:42

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Fi156 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Photo-b...AAAOSwI59aHyvg
  2. He111 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Photo-b...kAAOSwK~RaHy3S

Snautzer 1st December 2017 10:23

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bf109 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Luneburg-Cel...EAAOSwnCFaHw6F
  2. Fw200 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Celle-Mai-45...sAAOSwUchaHsNr
  3. Savoia SM82 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Luneburg-Cel...sAAOSwvfZaHw-z

canonne 2nd December 2017 09:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Please excuse me if you described this photo previously.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Reichsvertei...53.m1438.l2649

Please is it a G-6 from a training unit according to the 3 digits ?
"337" or "387" ...

What about its camouflage ?

Thank you

Philippe

Marc-André Haldimann 2nd December 2017 20:40

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canonne (Post 243563)
Please excuse me if you described this photo previously.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Reichsvertei...53.m1438.l2649

Please is it a G-6 from a training unit according to the 3 digits ?
"337" or "387" ...

What about its camouflage ?

Thank you

Philippe

Hi there Philippe, this fuselage camouflage pattern is a late war variant seen on some machines starting in January 1945. Here are two examples I know of:

1. Wertheim, January 1945:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7631641190814/

2. Illesheim, May 1945:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7650505265080/

Nothing clear about which producer did introduce it, or - as Anders Hjortsberg points - which repair depot. As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty. The best comparison is this shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7640125239846/

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 3rd December 2017 13:53

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
FW 200:
https://4ipuww.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...kAAOSwBkRaISoy

Ju 88 L1+EH:
https://4inhdq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...wAAOSwdnZaISzV

wrecked Ju 88:
https://4ip86q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...IAAOSwyGZaITJ1

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd December 2017 15:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
thanks for those, RudiS; here some more:

IMHO an Ago built Fw 190 A-9:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...4AAOSwb3laHb-f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...0AAOSwW6BaIkGs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...UAAOSwVA5aIkF4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...EAAOSw0wRaIkER

Bü 181:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...0AAOSwHNxaIk3J
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...sAAOSwLJ9aIkxA

Cheers
Marc

D.B. Andrus 3rd December 2017 17:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243582)
Hi there Philippe, this fuselage camouflage pattern is a late war variant seen on some machines starting in January 1945. Here are two examples I know of:

1. Wertheim, January 1945:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5258785826/in/album-72157631641190814/

2. Illesheim, May 1945:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/21044170706/in/album-72157650505265080/

Nothing clear about which producer did introduce it, or - as Anders Hjortsberg points - which repair depot. As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty. The best comparison is this shot:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/26027125796/in/album-72157640125239846/

Cheers
Marc


Marc

This camouflage pattern is a similar pattern to which Erla used.

Cheers,
D.B.

Rasmussen 3rd December 2017 18:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243582)
As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty.

Regarding Gerhard Stemmer this was likely an "yellow 387" because the JG 104 adapted in August 1044 an three digit tactical number system for each Staffel. In 3.Staffel were used the numbers 301-340 for older Bf 109G types and the G-12, followed by 30 numbers for Ar 96 and then 370 - 396 for G-6 and G-14.

Jerry Crandall 3rd December 2017 19:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Marc, That Fw 190 is set up to carry bombs so it's probably an F-8 or F-9
Cheers, Jerry

S Sheflin 4th December 2017 03:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Marc and Jerry,

Jerry, you may be correct regarding the Fw 190 in Post #596 being an F-8 or F-9. However, if you are suggesting that it is, “is set up to carry bombs,” due to the apparent lack of an Fw 190 A Morane mast, it may also be an Fw 190 A-8 mistel upper component. A nice shot from the front would easily clear-up this conundrum.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin


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