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Von Alles 12th November 2022 09:35

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#2435 1,2,3 : post-war HP Hastings

edwest2 12th November 2022 23:41

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/225248184674...Bk9SR-yQwdWNYQ

edwest2 13th November 2022 22:49

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/204150347343...Bk9SR_bPh-iNYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/225249261313...Bk9SR9Ta866OYQ

edwest2 14th November 2022 22:57

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/265989536097...Bk9SR9KKyYGPYQ

Snautzer 16th November 2022 21:34

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644 squadron flying paperwork june 44 , Sept 44, april 45 https://www.ebay.com/itm/12561413481...oAAOSwY4ljc4j1

Faenor 17th November 2022 07:17

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Hi all,

looking for more info about this scrap yard - looks like full of French type in German marking:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/385224419180...MAAOSw269jbSqc
https://www.ebay.de/itm/385224422847...wAAOSwALdjbSsS

Thank you

Faenor

edwest2 19th November 2022 00:47

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157622917...Bk9SR5DbwtGRYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/394340301316...Bk9SR5LbwtGRYQ

Faenor 19th November 2022 05:59

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Nice photo set - from all sides, in winter camo, with skies and with rockets:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157622917...Bk9SR5DbwtGRYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157406958...75.c101224.m-1
https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157625777...75.c101224.m-1
https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157619809...75.c101224.m-1
https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157622046...75.c101224.m-1
https://www.ebay.de/itm/204157618794...8AAOSwkURjd~IU

Faenor

edwest2 20th November 2022 01:03

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/125620183110...Bk9SR9rEgqWSYQ

edwest2 20th November 2022 21:33

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/334635166275...Bk9SR4r13eqSYQ
Off topic
https://www.ebay.de/itm/364053107612...EAAOSwMhljd4Yz

Alex Smart 20th November 2022 22:39

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2449 shows code "C7" . Roundel the outside circle shows a darker colour than the center so must be RAF , not French. The "C7" looks to be the remnant of it's Luftwaffe code. But itould well be either of these "C7+ ?? or "??+C7".

2450
Show's Blenheim"VT⊙N" K1770 ,
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/68502

The one behind serial number is a "3"or a "6" cannot make out the rest of the serial number.

Bertrand H 21st November 2022 06:20

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Thanks ED


#2449 : of course no RAF but Potez 63-11 with Matricule Militaire which begins by C7xx of French Armée de l'air

First one in the batch with C700 is Potez 63-11 n° 201

Bertrand

AndyMa 21st November 2022 11:42

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#2447 post 2 shows Battle P2332/PH-F of 12 Sqn, lost on 12 May 40, details here:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/89795

Alex Smart 22nd November 2022 03:58

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Hi Bertrand,
I thought it looked like a damaged He 111, with an RAF Airman standing by it.
Alex

edwest2 23rd November 2022 01:48

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/225264138667...Bk9SR_iQ1pOUYQ

Stig Jarlevik 23rd November 2022 07:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 324661)

Anyone who can identify this little aircraft?
Looks like one of the small Potez aircraft to me, but I am lousy when it comes to wrecks.....
Cheers
Stig

Alex Smart 23rd November 2022 22:05

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Hi Stig,
Can you decipher the handwriting on the back ?
Also at first in this series of aircraft with codes/serials starting with "K" I thought they were RAF, but it seems they are all French so why the "K-series over the wings ???
Alex

Stig Jarlevik 24th November 2022 09:06

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Hi Alex

The back side says Morane - Bordeaux, but to me this is no M.S. what so ever.

The serial number on top of the wing looks like W-515 which was the Armée de l'Air's so called Matricule Militaire.
Usually identified as buzz numbers in English they were introduced already in the mid 1920s.

In this present case, I would say it is an impressed aircraft since other impressed ones also carried
MM numbers in this range.

Cheers
Stig

Bertrand H 24th November 2022 19:16

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Hi Stig,


You are right and for a non-French you have very good knowledge of the French Air Force.

Congratulations

The MM in W were Caudron C275 Luciole, Caudron C600 Aiglon, Mauboussin and Salmson "Cri-Cri"

W-515 is Matricule Militaire for I think a SALMSON D6.T2 CRICRI

For example I have

W479 Salmson D.6 Cri-Cri n°102
W550 Salmson D.6 Cri-Cri n°164


another view of this same a/c proposed by Ed some weeks ago


https://www.ebay.de/itm/325403503210...Bk9SR5jiyt2EYQ

Bertrand

Stig Jarlevik 25th November 2022 07:28

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Thanks Bertrand

You are way too flattering. I have a great interest in French aviation and always wish to know more.

Yes you are correct W-515 has been shown before and shame on me that I didn't remember it.

So a Cri-Cri it is.

Thanks also for the additional information.

Cheers
Stig

Alex Smart 25th November 2022 19:42

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Bertrand & Stig,
Many thanks to you both for responding as always with positive and detailed information.
Alex

edwest2 26th November 2022 00:27

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/325437544798...Bk9SR4a2j7OVYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/295363825477...Bk9SR4a2j7OVYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/394350575397...Bk9SR7ShxJGWYQ

Alex Smart 26th November 2022 03:41

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Liberator tail number "36", was this "Brewery Wagon", 41-24294. I believe
that she was repaired and was later to be used by the Rumanian Air Force along with 3 or 4 other B-24's ?

Bertrand H 26th November 2022 10:43

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Thanks Ed

#2462_2 : The Spitfire coded "V" has a name "Melly Alweita (....) ale" and a possible serial which finished by "0" and readable when you put this photo in negative.

North Africa I think

edwest2 26th November 2022 21:09

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You're welcome Bertrand.


The Liberator has the words "Justa Willo Boy" toward the nose. Not sure about the spelling of the first word.

Alex Smart 26th November 2022 23:34

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The Spitfire "V", have sadly not been able to view it as a negative. However I put forward the following.
My thoughts are that this is a doctored version of "V ⊙ UZ", serial number R6770 of 306 Polish Squadron. Pilot became a POW, 22nd August 1942.
Two photo's of R6770 ( crash position very similar) can be viewed in the 306 Sqdn site in the Polish Squadron's Remembered website.

http://www.polishsquadronsremembered.com/

Alex

Alex Smart 26th November 2022 23:54

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Post 2465 " I'm a mean Willo boy" confirms the B-24 is "Brewery Wagon".
Quotation is just behind the pilot side (left) window and below the top gun turret.

https://warbirds.fandom.com/wiki/Fil...in_Romania.jpg

edwest2 27th November 2022 02:22

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Thank you for clearing that up Alex.

Bertrand H 27th November 2022 08:18

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#2466 : fishtail type of exhausts are not the same and we have a Spit V and a Spit IX ; the wrecks on nose are not the same ; so two different losses

Bertrand

Alex Smart 27th November 2022 17:52

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R6770 was a Mk 1 converted twice up to Mk IX .

edwest2 30th November 2022 23:25

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/364065340298...Bk9SR56qrqWZYQ

edwest2 6th December 2022 01:22

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/364065870605...Bk9SR76OkcucYQ

edwest2 7th December 2022 02:26

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/175521936656...Bk9SR4jMy4ydYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/134354819680...Bk9SR47My4ydYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/134354818457...Bk9SR47My4ydYQ

edwest2 8th December 2022 20:51

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/285059297518...Bk9SR8L3y7KeYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/285059296302...Bk9SR8L3y7KeYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/144844630317...gAAOSwNWFjkNCN
https://www.ebay.de/itm/144844628886...wAAOSwQfFjkNAU
https://www.ebay.de/itm/234807933595...Bk9SR7jN9rOeYQ

Bertrand H 9th December 2022 08:48

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thanks Ed ;

#2474_3 : Bloch 152 n°539/10 of GC II/1 at Buc

edwest2 9th December 2022 23:11

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You're welcome Bertrand.

edwest2 11th December 2022 00:40

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/374396993141...Bk9SR5zoleafYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/385284861002...Bk9SR5zoleafYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/394371640812...Bk9SR9ansuafYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/394371594221...Bk9SR9insuafYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/394371592614...Bk9SR9insuafYQ

Alex Smart 12th December 2022 15:07

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Cannot now find the page or post number but the Captured Blenheim's Luftwaffe code was "BG + GQ".

BABIN 12th December 2022 19:32

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Hello Alex,

In my humble opinion, the Captured Blenheim's Luftwaffe code was not
"BG + GD", but "BG+GQ".

For memory this Bleinheim belonged to RAF Squadron N°254 and was coded QY-K, serial Z6103.

Pierre Babin

edwest2 12th December 2022 21:55

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/354444754880...Bk9SR4rw38GgYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/364076596828...Bk9SR-j5jcKgYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/354444321929...Bk9SR-j5jcKgYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/354444316054...Bk9SR-r5jcKgYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/354444193841...Bk9SR-r5jcKgYQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/354444192940...Bk9SR-z5jcKgYQ


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