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Marc-André Haldimann 5th January 2018 23:18

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 245228)
Hi Marc,

Once again, I must thank you for your hard work and dedication.

Regarding this photo, http://www.ww2online.org/image/ameri...e-1944-or-1945, purportedly WNr. 568318, after checking my database and photo files I believe it is more likely:
Ar/War-built Fw 190 F-8 (WNr. 588318) 40+ white.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin



You're most welcome, Steve; thanks for your praise and much appreciated correction for "Weisse 40".

Sincerely
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 5th January 2018 23:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Manrho (Post 245231)
Nice, more pictures of Blue 1......the second D-9 picture is imho not an II./JG 6 a/c but probably an II./JG 2 one......there are no D-9's with red-white-red bands....

J.

Thanks John,

That was my mistake: I'm currently in the Swiss Alps....without my library. I'm pretty sure this II./JG 2 plane has been already published, possibly in Jerry Crandall's books.

Cheers
Marc

John Manrho 5th January 2018 23:32

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That's fine Marc......thin air in The Alps...:-))).....I already Checked Jerry's books but no luck....there is something that looks similar but not the same a/c.

Cheers,
John

Maciej Góralczyk 6th January 2018 02:49

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A few more shots from the same collection:
http://www.ww2online.org/image/ameri...n-1944-or-1945
http://www.ww2online.org/image/remai...d-1944-or-1945
http://www.ww2online.org/image/remai...n-1944-or-1945

S Sheflin 6th January 2018 06:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hello Maciej,
Thank you for posting these interesting photos (Post #664).
Regarding: http://www.ww2online.org/image/ameri...n-1944-or-1945, this is a beautiful example of an Fw 190 F-8 outfitted for night attack operations. Note that it is fitted with exhaust flame dampers, and that its small yellow plane number 5 has been applied relatively far forward of its Balkankreuz and on its main gear wheel covers.
Does anyone recognize the hangar/control tower in the background?
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

ChristianK 6th January 2018 11:31

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... and this one looks like a Ju 86 fitted with a FuG antenna: https://49fe30bb3aa7406c16dc-5c96811....297.152_1.jpg Also very interesting, never seen that before (given that the antenna in the picture really belonged to the wreck behind it, of course)

RT 6th January 2018 11:48

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We can even, almost , see the Kz of the Si 204 behind..

Von Alles 6th January 2018 13:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
About post #665 : I./SKG 10 (later III./KG 51 and then I./NSGr 20) used this kind of small number.

RudiS 6th January 2018 17:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88: IIRC this is Ju 88 A-4 300320 PI+SX of I/KG 76 at Cerignola.
I asked the seller for a better scan then the photo in the auction:
https://bwrbaq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://bwp2dg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Lot-9...19.m1438.l2649

Bf 109 Negative:
https://bwo5rg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

edNorth 6th January 2018 17:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
"IIRC" is accurate .. some 60 km off mark. Not serious.
Yes, this is +SX confirmed on colour photo I have from old auchion.

Ju 88 A-4/trop 300320 PI+SX of I/KG 76 - Found shot up Foggia Sattelite No.3 Airfield in Italy, autumn 1943

Germans called this area Tortorella in GQM losses (inaccurate).
Cerignola is SSE of Foggia, but No.3 was North of Foggia.
  • Salsola Airfield (Foggia Satellite #3)[14]
Abandoned, was located approximately 17km north of Foggia, 41°36′10.36″N 015°33′53.59″E (Approximate)Temporary airfield used by Fifteenth Air Force 1st Fighter Group, operating P-38 Lightnings. PSP runway with parking area. Built by COE in late 1943. Used by 1st FG until March 1945, closing in April 1945 and airfield dismantled. Today no evidence of existence visible on aerial photography, land completely returned to agricultural use. 1st Fighter Group, (P-38 Lightning), 8 January 1944-8 January 1945; 21 February–March 1945

But RAF source is not entierly realiable re these wrecks, best refer to Foggia area,
sister ship (300227 PI+SU) that went to the USA was repaired by 79 FG simply as "Foggia" (but some say Salsola)
but that group later moved to Madna.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foggia_Airfield_Complex


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