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S Sheflin 5th June 2016 23:02

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hello all,

What a great conversation this has become; Lots of new data.

Now a question for our experts: can anyone translate the Cyrillic script under aircraft #5, column 11? I am interested in the Motor manufacturer of DB 601 A-1 30109.

Thank you in advance.

Steve Sheflin

Tomislav Haramincic 5th June 2016 23:18

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hi Steve,

Under #3 it is written Henschel Kassel.

Nikita Egorov 5th June 2016 23:25

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hentschel engine plant in Kassel


Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 219301)
Hello all,

What a great conversation this has become; Lots of new data.

Now a question for our experts: can anyone translate the Cyrillic script under aircraft #5, column 11? I am interested in the Motor manufacturer of DB 601 A-1 30109.

Thank you in advance.

Steve Sheflin


S Sheflin 5th June 2016 23:34

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hello Tomislav and Nikita,

Thank you so very much for your rapid answers. I have others, but I don’t want to be a pest.

Steve Sheflin

Tomislav Haramincic 5th June 2016 23:40

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
No problem Steve, I know what you are after :)
I already extracted the DB601 and DB605 data to a excel sheet.

ouidjat 6th June 2016 10:52

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer (Post 219286)
Item 71 is most likely Bf 109 E-7 WNr. 5014.

Regards,
Norbert

Effectively Norbert,
Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10.
There is a strong possibility here though we can admit too "T" could have been replaced.
Last, can be a typo from both parts ...
And no other entries concerning both machines to check "who" is "who" ...

Regards, Franck.

Andrey Kuznetsov 11th July 2016 19:32

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
A group shot of some planes in question along the railroad
(from Alexey Sergeev's page):
http://deruluft.livejournal.com/93200.html

It is pity that items 77-99 of the TsAMO list remains without comparison with German data.

Best regards,
Andrey

edwest2 11th July 2016 20:06

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.





Thanks,
Ed

Andreas Brekken 11th July 2016 20:13

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hello, all. Vacation time in Norway - no time for Luftwaffe stuff most days - but here goes:

Page 7 has 13 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet:

77. Me 109E-4 WNr 7615:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147777

78. Ju 88A-5 WNr 2336:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=145487

79. Me 110 WNr 4503:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146845

80. Ju 87 D3 TR WNr 2446:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146904

81. Me 109 WNr 13289:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148068

82. Me 109F-4 WNr 7261:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=151195
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147152

83. Me 109F-4 WNr 7646:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148808

84. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10219:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=149364

85. Me 109F-4/R1 WNr 13355:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=152515
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147395

86. Me 109 of JG 53 - White 8:
No information

87. Ме 109Е-7 WNr 6426:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=163189
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142645

88. Ме 109Е-7/U-1 WNr 6479:
No information

89. Fi 156 WNr 20732/26:
No information


Regards,

Andreas B

S Sheflin 11th July 2016 20:21

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Andrey,

Thank you ever so much for the exciting new photo.

Steve Sheflin


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