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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

In this image, or others, I am not seeing the aft portion of cowl bulge (characteristic of the G-6) on the fuselage or evidence that one was previously fitted.

Mark Proulx

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Also want to point out this coded <2-+-, displaying two bars.

Mark Proulx

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Mark,

We might well have one of the 10 Bf 109 G-2 or G-4 found at Bizerte - Sidi Ahmed for which no tactical markings were recorded.

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

I have seen one photo of several Bf-109s removed from a visible railway tunnel by American troops. They were painted with a mottled pattern near the top, but the photo was taken at an angle where no fuselage markings could be seen. No location was given.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 246346)

Mark,

We might well have one of the 10 Bf 109 G-2 or G-4 found at Bizerte - Sidi Ahmed for which no tactical markings were recorded.

Cheers
Marc

What are you talking about ?
No tactical markings doesn't mean that can have a possible "match" with these "Winkel 2 + - " and "Winkel 2 - + - " ...
Among those "10" we have:
one 6./JG53
one II./JG51
one 2.JG77 ... with a JL marking, not a code but a marking
Left Ausgebrannt and Schrott machines with no indications
...
Left the machine we are talking about have a well readable marking .
...
And you are making a very short cut between "Bizerte" and "On the road between Tunis and Bizerte" !
And it's not exactly the same meaning
...
You don't know the road this caption does indicate, you don't know if the actual possible roads did exist during 1943 and you don't know which one they took between Tunis and Bizerte.
...
"Between Tunis & Bizerte" doesn't mean Bizerte and on the road between them you can find La Marsa, Mateur, Chaouat, Jedeida, Karouba, Cebalat (La Sebala) ... and so on.
All fields where machines have been found - with or without code.

Last, one "Winkel" of II./JG53 have been found at La Marsa and it's the only one we have in the list... and it happens, TWO have been pictured at the same place and one of them was 18031.
And yes, one, <2-+-, is not in the list .. but on pictures.

So, La Marsa.

Cheers!

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Thank you, Rudi. The triangle on the tail of the aircraft in post #717 is the largest example I've seen. And the mystery about the purpose of this marking remains.

Best,
Ed

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes