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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

According to the seller these are captured planes but I have some doubts.

https://sbxg4w.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-WWII-Ph...4AAOSwmnFeE3cz

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Rudi

With regard to the so called captured Go 242, it seems only two recorded aircraft (one to Britain and the other to USA) are known. Details of their origin is scanty to say the least, but both seems to have been captured before the end of the war. However there is another photo of the same Go 242 (no other aircraft visible around), but having the same flat landscape around it. One individual visible who may well be Allied can also be seen.

With regard to your "Siebels" they are most likely French post war production, and that goes for all "German" aircraft in the post war French photo albums now being sold on e-bay.

Cheers
Stig

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 280630)

Thanks for the info, Stig.
The two other a/c in the Go 242 photo carry a yellow theatre band so it looks that this photo was taken on the eastern front.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Post #2883
Did anyone see a good close up of that emblem on the nose?

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 280638)

Thanks for the info, Stig.
The two other a/c in the Go 242 photo carry a yellow theatre band so it looks that this photo was taken on the eastern front.

The Russians are also quoted as having evaluated the Go 242 post war.
Since I don't believe the Go 242 was used on the Western Front, and during the ever shrinking area controlled by the III Reich such theater markings probably meant very little by April/May 1945.

Cheers
Stig

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Maciej Góralczyk (Post 280640)

Post #2883
Did anyone see a good close up of that emblem on the nose?

Good question Maciej.
Looks like an Egyptian symbol of Horus and if so, the upper left corner must represent the Vulture goddess Mut (Mwt) "Mother".
Regards,
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 280653)

Good question Maciej.
Looks like an Egyptian symbol of Horus and if so, the upper left corner must represent the Vulture goddess Mut (Mwt) "Mother".
Regards,
Franck.

I had a feeling that I saw this before in some relation with P-40s, and this connection was right. It's the emblem of 79th FG:
http://raf-112-squadron.org/79th_fg.html
http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...llion-patches/
and this has sense - 79th FG emblem on the starboard side, 86th FS emblem on the portside.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Ju 52/3m WNr. 5933, registered 1938, D-AMFR "Ludwig Hautzmayer", wreck 1945 at Berlin-Tempelhof.
Regards
Leo

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Rottler (Post 280723)

Ju 52/3m WNr. 5933, registered 1938, D-AMFR "Ludwig Hautzmayer", wreck 1945 at Berlin-Tempelhof.
Regards
Leo

So it is.
Here is a photo confirming it:
https://tcpz5a.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1946-USAAF-...3/383359749141

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 280794)

https://u3gxyg.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WW...sAAOSwvmteF44s

Thanks Rudi,
WNr.230785, "Gelbe 11" at Fritzlar. A new picture for me.
Regards,
Franck.
PS: Old machine of the 3./NAGr.1, on 4 of March 45 "flugklar" and used by 3./NAGr.13, but on 28. March with 3./NAGr.1 had an "Rollschaden" in Fritzlar.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

#2909

Ju 188 A-2 U5+KH of 1./KG 2, abandoned at A-70 Laon-Couvron

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Thank you Mister Rudi !

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Post 2895 and subsequent images is the wreck of Fw 200C-4/U3, W.Nr. 0178, F8+NT ex 9./KG 40 in 1945 at Tempelhof Flugplatz.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 280920)

Thank you Mister Rudi !

Don't mention it, Mr Franck ;)