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S Sheflin 3rd February 2018 18:08

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Hello everyone,
Regarding the Ju 88 hulk in Wellenmuster camouflage (lower photo in Post #748), could the print possibly be flopped? I ask this because of the open section in its lower fuselage and the possibility that it was where the Luft-Torpedo control bump might have been removed. These were mounted on the port side of the cockpit.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Snautzer 3rd February 2018 21:23

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  1. Bf109 RAF 320 Squadron Melsbroek https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pho...cAAOSw61hadhHo

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd February 2018 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 246965)

Great find, Michiel. This is Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 460 374 "Schwarze 2", 2./JG 27 (?), Brussels Melsbroek, Autumn 1944. W.Nr. identification courtesy of Anders Hjörtsberg, 25 February 2014.

Other photos of this machine can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...-irAbQY-cH7DbS
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/7685196554/

A third one is published by Jerry Crandall in his 2003 Wings of the Black Cross 1, p. 18.

Cheers
Marc

David E. Brown 3rd February 2018 23:36

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Gents,

Post 748 – Nick, I agree that the aforementioned photo of this Me 262 was probably found at Brandenburg-Breist. The new photos are clear evidence that the aircraft was dragged to a new location away from the hangers. The Americans discovered the trying to tow the Me 262 by the nose wheel quickly snapped it off. What worked much better was to loop a cable over the fin and horizontal stabilizers. Pulling it from the back caused the cable to bite into the fin leading edge and hook onto the strongest part of the tail unit where the adjustment mechanism for the HS inclination was located. The wrecks at Lechfeld show lots of evidence for this methodology. However, here the cable must have slipped of the mechanism and rode up the fin to rip the top of the fin off, perhaps as it was descending a slope.

Post 751 – Steve, take a look at the jeep on the left. The steering wheel is located on the left side to the vehicle, confirming the photo is correctly printed. As well, the pilot seat is in the right position too (left side). You must have had a late shift!

Cheers,

David

S Sheflin 3rd February 2018 23:45

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Dave....you got me.

Thanks

Steve Sheflin

RudiS 4th February 2018 15:13

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Fw 190:
https://qprqua.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-WWII-45T...19.m1438.l2649

Different wrecks. The seller has a whole bunch of negatives for sale. I have just uploaded a few of them. You can see them all here:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ww2-origina...19.m1438.l2654
https://qpprlq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://qpogog.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://qpqhfg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://qpouma.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

Regards,
Rudi

edNorth 5th February 2018 02:27

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#748 and #755
Access to control cables and wiring was left side of Ju 88 cockpit side. Number on nose R.1074 (fuselage number) but last two of W.Nr. abowe, painted over.

My info comes out as ....
142466 Ju 88 A-4 I/KG 76 (Luftflotte 2) 15% at Foggia 28.05.43,
clearly abandoned at later stages

Image rang a bell, but also on Flickr.com, so copy of copy ??

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...tach_id=860588

#756 lower portion
Hanau is "Hannau/Langendiebach" re the two destroyed Ju 88 G-6 620678 and 621191
(Ref: US A-report )

RudiS 5th February 2018 03:23

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Thanks for the info, Ed

I have asked the seller about the R number on the nose of #748 and he says he reads the number as R1874.

Regards,
Rudi.

edNorth 5th February 2018 14:26

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Maybe, hard to say. Maybe. Part is painted out.
There are candidates in 822xxx range, also Foggia area.
FYI there is not exact nummerical correlation to W.Nrs.

Pegasus123 5th February 2018 17:37

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Hi
Does anyone know where this pictures of the abandoned Me410 had been taken? Bavarian aerea?

Thanks for any answer in advance
Regards
Harry


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