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Thanks Ed. Does anyone know the serial of this Battle please? (PM-X of 103 Sqn)

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Hi Andy,

The serial of that wreck in K9372, lost on 10 May 1940. It is actually one of the most photographed Battle wrecks, as it was located just beside a road.
However, I have never seen any evidence that it had the individual aircraft letter 'X'. Any idea where that came from ?

Regards,

Martin.

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Originally Posted by Martin Gleeson (Post 340106)

Hi Andy,

However, I have never seen any evidence that it had the individual aircraft letter 'X'. Any idea where that came from ?

Regards,

Martin.

Martin
If the two photos show the same aircraft (which looks very likely - same damage etc),
you can see a very clear X on the first photo, taken from its starboard side.

Previously it has been listed as PM-K but I will certainly go for PM-X at this point

Cheers
Stig

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Martin,
Thanks for the answer. As Stig said, X is painted on the side :) - it's clearly the same aircraft photographed from two sides.
I had already flagged up a problem in my records with K9372 being PM-K, as it seemed to clash with P2191, lost on 14May40.
Andy

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Andy, Stig

These two photos do not show the same aircraft. The 'X' Battle has a partial serial visible, I believe one can read 'L5..0'. A Fairey Battle specialist and I believe this is in fact L5580 of 12 Squadron, lost on 13 June 1940 and which was known to be 'PH-X'. The terrain better suits a June 1940 loss also.
103 Squadron had an unusual habit regarding the painting of markings on their Battles. By 10 May 1940 some - but not all - had the aircraft letter and unit code both painted forward of the fuselage roundel. K9372 in the second photo is an example of this. Also many photos of the K9372 wreck show a more undulating terrain, much more in keeping with losses during the first week of the campaign.

Hope this helps.

Martin.

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Interesting Martin

Blowing up the image, I agree it no longer looks like K9372. Odd they met their fate in a very
similar fashion

That means we are back to square 1 when it comes to the code of K9372

Cheers
Stig

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Stig, Andy

I think I may have found an answer. I believe it is 'PM-A' for K9372. Out of the 60 or so saved EBay photos of this wreck that I have, there is only one that on closer inspection shows 'A' just above the wing root and exactly where I would expect to find it on this wreck. I know of no other 'A' with 103 Squadron at this time, although it was probably carried on a replacement aircraft later in the campaign.

Regards,

Martin.

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Thanks Martin

60 you say? I have only saved two.... :)

Cheers
Stig

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Martin,
Thanks for the extra work on solving this one.
Andy

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Air medal
https://www.historical-media.com/id10128b.htm
Purple Heart
https://www.historical-media.com/id10129.htm
US Canal Zone + Australia Photo Album - 43rd Bomb Group "Ken's Men"- SILVER STAR WINNER
https://www.historical-media.com/id10130.htm
Off topic
Photo & Document Grouping - GEN. CLARENCE R. HUEBNER - 1st Infantry Division Commander
https://www.historical-media.com/id10126.htm

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8th Air Force - 303rd & 306th Bomb Group Lieutenant-Colonel George L. Robinson B-17 Flying Fortress Pilot Navigational Maps

https://premierrelics.com/b17

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461st Bomb Group B-24 GIURGIU Mission Raid Photographs

https://premierrelics.com/collection...arget-markings

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Thanks for these links

#3147 _1 : Bloch 161 LANGUEDOC n°1 F-ARTV

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#3148_1 to 4 : Wellington Ic X9873 of n°115 sqdn, KO-P lost on Bremen 31/10/41_1/11/41

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Thank you Bertrand for those replies.

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Ed
Wrong forum

Aircraft is a Heinkel 112 B and Romania was on the Axis side during most of WW 2

Cheers
Stig

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This is 42-38002 (IW--Q) 401BG bellied-in near Brunswick on Mission 230 to Aschersleben 22/2/44; this was Day 3 of "Big Week" attacks on aircraft industry. MACR is 2661 (lots of pages).
Regards
Nick

https://www.americanairmuseum.com/ar...craft/42-38002

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Hi all,

more photos of the sames plane:

https://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/p.../category/3288

Faenor

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Thanks Faenor. You may be interested in this map of the Big Week targets, copied from an Intelligence Dept. map dated April. On the original one 3 are crossed-off as not being re-built. Also a page from the MACR noting her markings.
Nick

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d7e4e0d0_o.jpg big-week by Nicholas King, on Flickr

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/90926980?objectPage=22

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