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Hello Gerhard,

The 2nd TAF Report of the inspection on May 16 lists two He 219 as destroyed which corresponds with reports that almost all aircraft at Blankensee were destroyed by GAF personnel on May 2nd. The above attachment refers to aircraft "handed over", which appears to describe intact aircraft such as at Westerland and in Denmark. As far as I know, there is no photograph of the He 219 at Husum.

I wonder whether the OKL Nord list would include the two destroyed aircraft or whether it refers to two other He 219? No doubt, the Blankensee aircraft meet the "Nordraum" location.

Kind regards
Mathias

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Akte 440 in the OKH series of files is unusual. The material dates from September and October 1939 and is a mixture of Army documents and many Luftwaffe items including orders for the establishment of units including new Jagstaffeln, and Kampfgruppe Ju 88 (Greifswald, 21 September 1939).

On 19 September, there is an order to establish two Kampfgeschwader staff and 14 Kampgruppen, along with a list of these and document setting out where they are all based.

The first items on the file deal with air attacks (mainly friendly fire) on German troops in the Polish Campaign.

Akte 580 (in Russian) has plans of the Vienna Flak towers.

Akte 441 deals with the air defence of Romania in 1944 including fighter and Flak dispositions as well as bar charts of of Bf 109 G-6 production.

Akte 845 has maps of Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L. reconnaissance flights over the Soviet Union in May and June 1944 before Barbarossa.

Akte 270: oblique photos of the Sussex coast taken by 3.(F)/10 on 1 September 1940.

Akte 62 explains all the various organisation symbols used on maps and orders of battle by the army, navy and Luftwaffe (176 pages in all).

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Have you found anything interesting from your point of view? For me it was a bit disappointing. I wonder how many of the files do exist in other copies in BAMA.

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Worth it for the 1940 daily sitreps alone. For me at the moment that is the biggest thing but there are other individual documents that I'm finding useful too. Anyone researching the Polish campaign would be very happy, I think.

They may exist in BA-MA but I can read the online ones without spending time in quarantine!

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Did you come across anything related to North Africa? In particular daily sitreps for October 41 - February 42?

All the best

Andreas

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No, but I've only looked at a small part of what's there. Because it's material the USSR captured, the bias seems to be toward the Eastern Front. The daily situation reports for the Western Front (captured in Vienna) go up to just before Barbarossa and include a »Lage Süd« section summarising the campaigns the Italians were engaged in but I haven't seen other African material yet.

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Don't forget this link http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...an+docs+russia

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Good call. Two threads now merged into one.

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Nick - my friendly Russian source tells me that the cover page for these documents is as follows:

The typed text is (line by line):

Documents of German general staff about armed forces of
Germany, received by Major general Trusov
in town Flensburg on 20.05-23.05.1945.
Folder #2
Received from the staff of 1st Bielorussian Front.

Here is the info on Maj-Gen. Trusov

https://generals.dk/general/Trusov/N...iet_Union.html

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There is a lot of stunning stuff for the Polish Campaign, indeed, but much to my surprise it seems that the same KTBs are missing, like I/ZG 1, much to my disappointment. I fully agree, that the ability of viewing them online is a big advantage, though on the other hand, I am crying for OCR search.

Anyway, I was looking for the war over the Channel 1940-1944, and I have found daily reports only, and those seem a big disappointment, at least to me. Only Lfl 3 provided more detailed information through 1940 (have them from another source), the rest is so vague, that it is making it almost useless.

I guess that there is plenty of fascinating stuff for other areas, though.

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For anyone interested in JG 5's response to the Lancasters that sank the Tirpitz, take a look at Bestand 500 / Findbuch 12453 - Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine (OKM) / Akte 79: Verschiedene Materialien der Wehrmachtsbehörden in Norwegen.

This includes documents apparently assembled for the post-mortem on the loss of the Tirpitz on 12 November 1944. Among these are transcripts of traffic between the controller and the fighters, reports from observer posts, the ground controller's account of the attack and response and (see attached) a list of which pilots took off, when, and in which aircraft.

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Very interesting Nick! Thanks for sharing the documents.

Dirk

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Hi Nick,
Very much appreciate you sharing that find -- great stuff!

I've had a long fascination with 617 Squadron, and visited Bardufoss and Tromsø a couple of years ago. It wasn't hard to imagine Ehrler and Dörr taking off in their 109s that morning, and 9. Staffel's 190s waiting next to the sloping runway for the incoming Ju 52 (or Ju 88?) to land...

12 Nov 44 was a very dark day for JG 5, due to a major breakdown in communication and coordination between the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe.

Regards,
Leon Venter

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It is also interesting that the times set out in the two excerpts posted here do not agree

Cannot understand enough German to get from the texts which one is correct or why the difference

Martin

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Hi,

There has been another new findbuch added Findbuch 12488 - Unterlagen Operation "Seelöwe"

The following may be of interest:-

Akte 103: Unterlagen der OKH-Abteilung Fremde Heere West: Zielraumkarte 11 – Middlebrough-Teesgebiet, Stand 1.9.1940, M 1:50.000


Akte 695: Unterlagen des Koluft beim AOK 16: Vorbereitungen des Koluft für „Seelöwe“, Mob-Kalender und Kräftegliederung für das Unternehmen, Befehle des Koluft u.a.


Akte 551: Unterlagen des Koluft beim AOK 16: Karte der Seenotbereiche und Seenotbezirke der Luftwaffe in der Nordsee, im Kanal und im Atlantik

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I was scanning for Lw Flak units, but did not find the source. anybody?

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Egbert,

Is this what you were looking for Findbuch 12476 - Flakkorps und Flakdivisionen

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There's also this one with reference to Seelöwe (but I'm only halfway through the first page of files so far): https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/...de/grid/zoom/1

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Andy,the 12474 is available for some time now. I have scanned this doc for my fathers flak unit to no avail.
I mean indeed the new Seelöwe files. My Q refered to Flak units. So far I scanned the file with no reference to flak units...

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 

Egbert,

Apologies - I would have to say I have not seen a lot specific to Flak units I'm afraid.

Anyone interested in Target Codes (Ziel Nrs) there is this file - Akte 433: Unterlagen des Koluft beim AOK 9: Karten zu Zielpunkten und Landungsräumen der 9. Armee, Kartenskizzen zur Dislokation und Stärke von Verbänden der britischen Luftstreitkräfte, Luftbildaufnahmen der britischen Küste

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Documents from Flak Battalion 607 (mot.) here: https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/...de/grid/zoom/1

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thanx for that, to be more precise, my father was at that time in FlakRgt 43 and once told me that they practiced the embarkation in France or Belgium on earmarked Rhine River barges.....

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Which Flak-Einheiten are you specifically interested in? I have a lot of material that might be of interest to you. Zum Beispiel, Stab/43, I./43 or II./43? Was your Vater in any other Flak units?

L.

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I noticed that there are many files there about exercises embarking units on barges and also in mounting guns on them for fire support.

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I am always scanning for new TASMO entries and other sources here for the following units my father served in:

A. 4./ FlakRgt 43, from 26.8.1939, Poland,
from 10.5.1940 – 20.7.1940 Holland, Belgium, France

B. 4./ ResFlakAbt 617 from 28.8.1940, Oldenburg German Reich

C. 4./ ResFlakAbt 265 , 1.9.1940, Vechta, Diepholz, Bremen German Reich

D. 5./ ResFlakAbt 265, from 9.1.1941, Hesepe/Osnabrück, Bremen-Neustadt

E. 9./II./ FlakRgt 23 from 13.1.1943, Battle of Orel, Kursk, Gomel – Retschiza (Retschyza) - Slobin

F. FlakRgt 21, also possibly 2./23, 10/1943, Retschyza

G. Stab 12. FlakDiv (mot) Ia Abt from 3.11.1943 Hauptquartier Bobruisk

H. Stab Luftflottenkommando 6 from 25.11.1943, Hauptquartier 9/43 – 2/44: Minsk

I. Stab Luftflotten-kommando 6 until 1.8.1944 Hauptquartier 2/44 – 6/44:Priluki
Hauptquartier 6/44 – 8/44: Warschau

J. Generalkommando II.Flakkorps from 1.10.1944 - 12.11.1944

K. Oberkommando der Luftwaffe bei Generalquartiermeister 4.Abt, 5.4.1945, Wildpark/Werder, Berchtesgaden

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 

Thanks, Egbert, I'll see what I can put together for you. This will take a few days and maybe even a week.

L.

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 

Found this document with pictures of Flak units exercising Seelöwe embarkation. Also how Flak units supposed to be employed during sea transport:

https://books.google.de/books?id=-fj...%20101&f=false

Most Flak stuff last 2/3 of the document.