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POST 3804.
1. P-61A 422NFS Florennes 1945. Photo J.W. Morgan-L.F. Koehler (crew) L.L. Bost, C.O. Troxell. 2 air credits. Possibly 42-5568 crash-landed Florennes 5 March 45 (?).
2. P-61 "Mildred" 42-5543 422NFS as above; crew R.A. Anderson-J.W. Morgan. 2 credits. Jet 622 black.
3. Waiting confirmation. Unusual number style.
4. B-25D 41-30161 "Avoca Avenger" 345BG "Air Apaches" ( 498BS Falcons); name for pilot T. F. Tackaberry's home town. Converted to strafer at Townsville Depot. Shark mouth from previous owner 90BS, retired as WW. 1944.
5. B-24J 42-50569 "Times a' Wastin" 466BG as 2U-H+. Mission symbols Little Brown Jugs, and figure from "Snuffy Smith and Barney Google" comics. Red-white tail.
6. A-20 possibly 3BG N. Guinea, evidently photo- recon or mapping as symbols are cameras plus large eye. Serial ?
7. B-24J 42-51514 "Big Chief/ Lil Beaver" 458BG as 7V-B, red-white tail.
8. B-24J 42-51288 "Back to the sack" 448BG as IG-P, flew with 3 sqns. Black-yellow tail.
9. B-24H 42-94818 "Captain John Silver" 34BG; down in sea S. of Selsey Bill 9 July 44 on Mission 463 to V1 sites (bad weather). Tail Square S.
10. B-24J 42-51343 "Shazam" 398BG as YO-N; crashed after take-off 7 March 45 in Norfolk , Mission 869 to Soest. Captain Marvel figure; still has delivery markings "3104 Ford SOXO". Black-white tail.
11. B-24H 42-94828 "You're safe at home" 445BG as RN-P bar, note baseball figure. Black-white tail. Survived.
12. B-17G 42-102661 "Big dog" and hound, 384BG as SU-L. Landed in France after Mission 859 Bohlen-Rositz. 109 missions, salvaged in Germany post-war after conversion for transport. Black triangle "P".
13. B-17G 44-8007 "Screaming Eagle" 384BG as JD-Z, survived. Displayed in Paris.
14. B-17F 42-29945 "Daisy June II" (92BG) MIA 12 Aug. 43, Mission 81 (Flak), didn't bomb Primary. Crashed N. Sea.
15. B-17F 42-3093 "Nobody's Darlin" 96BG then 351st. as TU-K; artwork Varga girl from April 43 calendar. To 2SAD after 8 missions and salvaged Jan. 44.




Nick

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1) Was actually 42-5538 which was lost 12 Oct 1944 with Lt Donald Doyle & Lt Norman Williams
2) According to the well researched P-61 book by Jeff Kolln 42-5543 was named by Anderson
Tennessee Ridge Runner
The name Mildred is not listed, but it could of course been renamed after it was handed over
to a different crew. Your source please?

B Rgds
Stig

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Hi Stig. Photo of Anderson and Mogan (usual spelling) in a Key Aero mag. from 2017; "Mildred" is actually on the left cowling and she is Jet 622 Black, "Runner" being OD/NG so not same plane. Cowling names were normally supplemental.
Thanks
Nick

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Nick,


Thank you very much. Number 13 interests me because I count three captains and two lieutenants. The average crew photo might contain one officer.

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There is an inherent problem here since there were two Andersons in 422NFS
1/Lt John Anderson (who flew with Lt James Mogan)
1/Lt Raymond Anderson (who flew with Lt John Morris)

According to Frank Olynyk
John Anderson claimed two victories, both in 42-5543
Raymond Anderson claimed three, in three different P-61s, 42-5573, -5543, -5540

Unfortunately Kolln & Olynyk differs slightly with regards to dates, so I am not
going into that.
However none of the above aircraft is listed with the name 'Mildred', but it now seems clear
that it was John Anderson who named his aircraft 'Tennessee Ridge Runner' and not Raymond A.

Does Key explicitly state 'Mildred' was 42-5543?
Reason I ask is that I have very few books so well researched as the one by Jeff Kolln

B Rgds
Stig

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Hi Stig. This is John Anderson and Mogan after name added....
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWIIplanes/..._2nd_lt_james/


This is the same "Mildred" at EOW, note name is only on cowling so not it's regular name. Well-maintained Gloss Black finish reflects Johnson's status as Sqn. c/o. Obviously not "Runner"....
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall...hter-squadron/


Magazine photo is John Anderson, Mogan, Bob Elmore & Leonard Mapes (4 claims). Sorry don't know where I got 42-5543 from, trying to strain brain.


ED. Photo 13. 44-8007, this is most likely post-war when she was assigned to Ninth AF / USAFE for photo/mapping/surveying over Europe; note crew's bags with names, not her regular crew in combat.


Regards
Nick

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OK Nick
So if I understand you correctly the Black W 'Mildred' is so far unidentified.

Cheers
Stig

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Afraid so. In the article there are 2 photos referring to Oris Johnson, one is "Mildred" and the other (with Johnson) he's on P-61A "No love! no nothing!" but they are not the same P-61 (different radomes). In the 422 History there's a photo of him with "No love" but no serial shown on any. Would you like the link?


Nick

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Sent a separate mail to you Nick

Cheers
Stig

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Thanks ED

#3815_1 : Potez 63-11 n°344 of GAO 517. Last flight on 12 june 1940 between Sezanne and Bray-sur-Seine

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correction cross fingers

#3815_1 : Bloch 174 n°15 : Posted to GR 2/36 on 14 may 1940
#3815_2 : Potez 63-11 n°344 of GAO 517.Last flight on 12 june 1940 between Sezanne and Bray-sur-Seine

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You're welcome Bertrand.

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thanks Ed

#3819_1 : Bloch 152 n° 533 "72" of GC II/9 4ème escadrille ; lost on 11 june 1940 at Connantre with Sgt Bernard
#3819_2 and 4 : Curtiss H-75 n°54 "6" of GC II/5 lost on 6 june 1940 at Missy-sur-Aisne with Sgt Josef Janeba

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tnx Ed

#3821_5 : D.500 n°81 Ecole de Chasse n°1 (EPP Etampes) lost at La Rochelle

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You're welcome Bertrand.


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Hi all

some photo-version of P-38 with spiral on the propeller cone - I see it for the 1st - do you have more information?
Based in the name of airfield, probably 10th Photographic Group (Reconnaissance)

Thank you

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#4 looks like Battle k9372/PM-A of 103 Sqn, shot down on 10 May 1940, all three crew killed.
Martin's pages have more details:
https://martinaviationpages.com/10-may-1940-2/

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POST 3825.
Based on the cowl number probably F-5C 42-67247 30PRS / 10PRG, they were at Chalgrove Feb.--Aug.44. If so it crash-landed there May 12 flown by 1/Lt. C.L. Rudel.
Spinner markings personal, not by Group. Ninth AF were more tolerant with this than Eighth; overall blue finish could be Synthetic Haze.


( POST 3821 photo 1. F-5E 44-24984 also 30/10 (code I6) they were only at Limburg Y-83 (Germany) from 2--10 April 45). At this time likely to be PRU Blue.


Nick

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Thank you Nick!

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Hi Nick
Since the unit flew both F-5 and P-38, do you have a masterlist over converted P-38L
into F-5E?
No obvious PR details visible in the pic as far as I can see :confused:

Cheers
Stig

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Hi Stig. I have---somewhere. Quick reference, Joe Baugher's list in Block 44-23769 to 44-25058, P-38L-1 / F-5E-4.
F-5 features in photo : no guns, radio mast, flat under nose for vertical cameras, overall finish (lighting makes it look darker). Don't know what the marking on nose is (on all 3) maybe over the side camera port but not the 30PRS insignia.
Regards
Nick

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Thanks Nick

I can now see why my usual ID (side cameras) is not visible.... the engine
is blocking that.

Cheers
Stig

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This is B-17F 41-24445 "Southern Belle" also "Six Bits" 97BG; shot down probably by II./JG26 FW190, 6 Sept. 42 on VIIIBC Mission 10 to the Avions Potez factory at Meaulte (10 POW). Only short-range missions at this date. The first B-17s lost by Bomber Command, 1 from 97th, 1 from 92nd. A new "F", the 97th exchanged their B-17Es for the 92nd B-17Fs; 445 only arrived in August. No markings at this time and assigned to Twelfth AF in Nov.
The bomb is a 1000lb. M44 HE, a yellow ring at rear identified filling.
She may have been "Six Bits" when assigned temporarily to 92BG.

Update. From Don Caldwell's "JG26 Top guns of the Luftwaffe". 41-24445 shot down by Hptm. Meyer Stab./JG26; the 92BG B-17E 41-9026 "Baby Doll" by 4.Staffel and ditched in Channel.

Regards
Nick

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Thanks Nick.

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