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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 293465)

https://i.ibb.co/dp2kVpP/Ju-88-352.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-ORIGINA...MAAOSwoWFfOb4C

Dear RudiS,

You caught us yesterday an interesting case. This burning Ju 88 G-1 seems to my eyes to bear the W.Nr. 714053.

If this is confirmed, W.Nr. 714053 from 2./NJG 101 crashed 19 October 1944 at 20.38 at Geroldshausen in der Hallertau, close to Ingolstadt from where it took off, killing all its crew (FF Lt. Erwin Köstner, BF Uffz Alfred Bormann, BS Gefr. Heinrich Köhler). I of course stand corrected against the caption stating this machine was blown-up 17 May 1945 at Braunschweig.

Source: GQM Schulen via Michael Balss's loss list.

Cheers
Marc

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Marc, I make it 714053 too (see the cleaned up detail of the image attached).

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Thanks for your clearer blow-up of the W.Nr., Nick !

As an alternate solution for this riddle, could we have a typo for the 17 October 1944 loss report ?

Cheers
Marc

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Original report, NVM, speaks of Wn 4053 !, type G-1, all G-1 are beg. by 711+++ 712+++ 713+++ or 714+++, logical to go to the 714053, built in June 44 so could match,but picture seems to show a field of wrecks ..

Rémi

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Un grand merci Rémi !

Thanks Rémi for the original W.Nr. quoting. It doesn’t solve our riddle though... Do we have documented reallocated W.Nr. cases ?

Cheers
Marc

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Un grand merci Rémi !

Thanks Rémi for the original W.Nr. quoting. It doesn’t solve our riddle though... Do we have documented reallocated W.Nr. cases ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

regarding 714053 - could the G-1 in the NVM be a typo, making 4053 another Ju88 sub-type instead?

Cheers

Rod

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Do we have documented reallocated W.Nr. cases ?

Never heard, Marc-André , Plane DW+TM/714053 was i. june 45 in the "VW-Werft Waggun, a mistake or "misinterpretation" of the 4058, in the NVM it is clearly written G-1, Rod

Hey guys you are not watching the Soccer ?? :D
Rémi

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There are other photographs of W.Nr. 714053 showing more of the aircraft and it does appear to be a G-1. One image is almost the same angle as the one on TOCH and it appears to be identical in all respects. Perhaps the W.Nr. in the NVM was in error since it was truncated.

ArtieBob

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 293501)

Number in Balss appears be wrong. NVM (via Salonen) has it 4055 (714055)
Besides Schulen losses end at 30.09.44, so source is incorrect.
The Ju 88 G-1 714053 (late BMW 801 G engines, smooth cowling) burned out <possibly VWW at Braunschweg/Waggum> before surrender, 1945
is well known. https://www.fold3.com/image/37221767

Ed

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I read one more time NVM, it says 4053

Rémi

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Post #3916. This appears to be Me 262B-1a/U1, W Nr 110306, coded Red 6 of IV./NJG 11. Originally USA 2. The T-2 prefix refers to an aircraft assigned to Wright Field. From War Prizes by Phil Butler.

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