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sturmgewehr1945 12th October 2011 23:14

Yak 3-looking for information
 
Hi.
Recently we found wreckage Yak-3 in the Slovak Republic, who was shot down on January 14 1945 in the village Muzsla.Can anyone help with identifying of Russian pilot?Muzsla in 1945 belonged to Hungary.
Thanks.

HGabor 13th October 2011 10:09

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
гв.мл.л-т Стадниченко Алексей Ефимович was shot down and killed near Muzsla-NW, 2 km in Hungary (recently Slovakia) on January 14, 1945 from 5 VA, 6 GvIAD, 31 GvIAP. His opponent was probably Hptm. Helmut Lipfert 6/JG 52. (Muzsla belonged to Hungary not only in 1945, but for about 7-800 years before 1920. It belonged to the Roman Catholic Cardinal of Esztergom, Hungary. Majority of population is still Hungarian. Just for accuracy.)

I hope this helps.

Gabor

Laurent Rizzotti 13th October 2011 12:35

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Hello Gabor,

Can I ask you if your source is a published one, or if the data is coming directly from former Soviet archives ? If the former is true I will be interested to buy it.

Best regards

Laurent

Ota Jirovec 13th October 2011 12:48

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Laurent,

You can just try to type Stadnichenko´s name (or that of any other airman) in cyrilic into http://www.obd-memorial.ru/ database and it will, in most cases, provide you some basic details. Hope this helps.

Ota

HGabor 13th October 2011 16:11

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Hi Laurent,

I access(ed) both. But this one was public, see above. Cheers,

Gabor

sturmgewehr1945 13th October 2011 19:35

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Thank you for the info Gabor.
We did not find the pilot.It is listed as missing?And where can I get a photo, I need it in a museum.

HGabor 13th October 2011 19:49

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
No problem. The pilot was killed, not missing. But Hartmann claimed another one in the area, I assume from the same unit. Maybe that guy survived. Who knows. As of the photo... It is not easy. I cannot promise anything now.

Gabor

sturmgewehr1945 13th October 2011 20:49

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
So the pilot was found and buried?

Nikita Egorov 13th October 2011 21:00

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Gentlemen,

Several corrections:

1. Stadnichenko was shot down on Yak-9, not Yak-3. Serial № 1615342
2. Area given in operational documents is "Kibelkut"
3. Surely by Lipfert, time matches.

HGabor 13th October 2011 21:19

Re: Yak 3-looking for information
 
Thanks Nikita, the point is yours:

1. Stadnichenko was shot down on Yak-9, not Yak-3. Serial № 1615342
-I read the personal file mentioned above, haven't checked the serials specifically
2. Area given in operational documents is "Kibelkut"
-Kibelkut is Hungarian "Köbölkút" (now called: Gbelce) It is in the same area (the very next settlement), so it still can be Muzsla.
3. Surely by Lipfert, time matches.
-I agree. Sorry, I quoted the name of German pilot just from memory, but remembered the twin victories. You are right, Lipfert claimed both, not Hartmann.

Cheers,

Gabor


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