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Harold Lake 27th May 2013 04:02

Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Does anyone have any information for Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438? I thought I had this but apparently I don't. Thanks!

Hal

Oberst 27th May 2013 04:35

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Max-Hellmuth Ostermann, Bf-109G-2, WNr.10438, Black 1+, shot down a Russian Curtiss P-40 fighter for his 102nd, and last, victory, but shortly after was shot down and killed in a dogfight with Soviet fighter pilots in the vicinity of Amossovo.

ouidjat 27th May 2013 04:37

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Hal, missed only one? Lucky guy!

09/9/1942: Bf 109 G-2; WNr.10438; 7./JG 54; Weisse 1+~; Oblt. Waldemar "Hein" Wübke, Stfkpt, (Wounded); Luftkampf mit Mig-3; Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Mga; 15%.
15/01/1943: Bf 109G-2; WNr.10438; 7./JG 54; Blaue 1+~; Luftkampf with enemy fighter; 100%. Pilot Fw. Kurt Stöber, FSA. Pow.

Note: because of Wintertarn white numbers were painted blue on white camo, sometimes in JG 54 ...
Note: For NVM references ask the "good" guys.

Hope it helps.

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 27th May 2013 05:02

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
As for post #2 by Oberst: see post #7 by Jim P here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ight=Ostermann
Obviously HE is my source.

Regards, Franck.

Oberst 27th May 2013 21:38

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
So its down to whether its an '8' or a '4'.

Andreas Brekken 28th May 2013 07:31

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Hi, guys

Here is what I have - please note my comments with regards to the WNr in the loss of Ostermann:

Ostermann:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=103344

Stöber or Döge as per GenQu:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=103341

Wübke:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=103343

Maybe some NVM info can clear it up. Do not have them for JG 54.

Regards,
Andreas B

ouidjat 28th May 2013 08:03

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
:D

Andreas,

You gave the same link for Ostermann and Wübke!!!!

Regards, Franck.

Andreas Brekken 28th May 2013 20:59

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Fixed

Harold Lake 29th May 2013 13:52

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Gentlemen,

Thank each of you very much for your input. We are indeed fortunate to have members who have access to such information at the click of a mouse...and are willing to share with those of us less connected.

Hal

ouidjat 29th May 2013 15:48

Re: Bf 109 G, W.Nr. 10438
 
Don't mention it Hal.
As for me I do for you what "they" did for me during years. (Since October 2008!? My gooood!)
Franck.


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