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Heuser 21st September 2015 00:50

Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Gentlemen,

while browsing in Christer Bergströms recommendable book "The Ardennes, 1944-1945" I stumbled across a photo showing the wreck of a D-9 with the Werknummer 21x 129, (red or yellow) "9".

This photo was taken by members of the 68th Tank Batallion, 6th Armoured Division, the source is given as "The Paul Warp Collection".

Is there anything known about a D-9 with this Werknummer(n), most probably found by advancing US forces in western or central Germany (and not in the Ardennes)?

Regards,

Heuser

John Manrho 23rd September 2015 20:19

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
I do not believe I have seen this one before....at least it is not in my D-9 list.....could you post a scan of it (with the correct reference of course).

Thanks,

John

Seaplanes 23rd September 2015 20:59

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Fw 190D-9 W.Nr. 210129 suffered 20% damage when making a belly landing
at airfield no. 1693 on 13. February 1945. No casualties. Unit was IV./J.G.26.

Heuser 24th September 2015 00:06

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaplanes (Post 207034)
Fw 190D-9 W.Nr. 210129 suffered 20% damage when making a belly landing
at airfield no. 1693 on 13. February 1945. No casualties. Unit was IV./J.G.26.

Correct, location was Münster-Handorf a/f with Fw. Arnfried Köhler of 10./JG 54.

Regards

Heuser

Juha 24th September 2015 08:33

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Hello Heuser or Seaplanes
do you have the reason for the belly landing?

TIA
Juha

Micke D 24th September 2015 12:53

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Is this the plane you mean?
Go to
http://www.stormbirds.com/recon/index.hem
and look at Fw 190D on the left side.
I have seen a better photo of this plane somewhere and think it may be W. Nr. 210127 and belong to JG 54.

Heuser 24th September 2015 23:34

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha (Post 207044)
Hello Heuser or Seaplanes
do you have the reason for the belly landing?
TIA
Juha

Good evening Juha,
according to Urbankes "Mit der Fw 190 D-9 im Einsatz" (engl: "Green Hearts, First in Combat with the Dora 9") this a/c was damaged by own Flak (marked as "black 7").

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micke D (Post 207046)
Is this the plane you mean?
Go to
http://www.stormbirds.com/recon/index.hem
and look at Fw 190D on the left side.
I have seen a better photo of this plane somewhere and think it may be W. Nr. 210127 and belong to JG 54.

Good evening Micke,
yes, this is the same a/c and location, thanks for the hint. At least the "... 129" is clearly visible in Bergströms book.

Regards

Alexander

Juha 25th September 2015 11:47

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
Hello Heuser
thanks a lot for the answer!

Juha

John Manrho 26th September 2015 21:11

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
I am still not convinced that the D-9 on the picture is indeed 210129.....why couldn't it be 211129? There are a couple of things that do not add up...

a) 210129 was damaged on Feb. 13th, 1945 with 10./JG 54 as black 2 at Münster - Handorf. This picture shows clearly a 9.....(red, yellow, blue?)

b) 6th Armoured Division was i.m.h.o. nowhere near Münster-Handorf....

So.....either this is not 210129 but 211129 or it shows 210129 later after repair and repainting with other unit? Possible...

Any ideas?

John

Seaplanes 27th September 2015 11:11

Re: Fw 190 D-9 21x 129
 
How did Fw 190D-9 W.Nr. 210129 end up in 10./J.G.54 ?? The Gen.Qu. loss list for February 1945 clearly state IV./J.G.26. Is there a NVM that give other info or was 10./J.G.54 a part of IV./J.G.26 at this time.


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