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byron- 19th June 2017 22:42

Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Ηι,
Ι have a loss of a Ju 52 Sea of Seetransportstaffel 1, shot down on 29.05.43 [Ju 52, W.Nr.7103] 100% by Sqd 227. Crew survived, ho knows their names??

Rottler 19th June 2017 23:17

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Hi byron-

Gen.Qu. loss report from June 8, 1943:

29.5. Lufttransportstaffel See
Feindflug Milos-Athen
Ju 52 7103 Zerstörerbeschuß 100%

F no name, uninjured
Bf Uffz Greh injured
Bm Uffz Scholz injured
Bs Uffz Toth injured
Passenger Ogefr Georg Hiepe, Leichte Flakabteilung 891, dead.

Regards
Leo

byron- 19th June 2017 23:30

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Hallo Leo,

meinen allerbesten Dank

Byron

Rottler 20th June 2017 13:38

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Hello Byron,

in the database of "Luftwaffe-zur-See.de" are some complement and divergent informations:
Ju 52/See
Kennung DD+ZX
WNr. 7105 (in Gen.Qu. loss report clearly 7103)
Verband LTS (See)
Ort und Ursache: Qu 48534/23 Ost, Transportflug Milos-Athen, musste infolge Feindbeschuss 200 m von der Küste auf dem Wasser notlanden, sie ist brennend mit Fluggästen gesunken. 7 Mann einschließlich Besatzung retteten sich durch schwimmen an Land.
Besatzung:
+ Ogefr Georg Hiepe
(Bf) Uffz Groh > WIA (in Gen.Qu. clearly Uffz Greh)
(Bm) Uffz Scholz > WIA
(Bs) Uffz Toth > WIA.

Regards
Leo

Stig Jarlevik 20th June 2017 17:51

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Leo

I have DD+ZY as WNr 7104, so a WNr 7103 for DD+ZX sounds much more logic.

Cheers
Stig

byron- 20th June 2017 17:55

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Hi Leo,
thanks for the additional inf about its "Kennung".

Byron

Rottler 24th June 2017 12:36

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Hi Stig,

Karl Kössler, a notable specialist for the transporter Ju 52, has published three definite examples of DD-codes for Ju 52.

The inventory of III./TG 1 from July 1943 lists the Ju 52 DD+ZM, WNr. 7094 and DD+ZO, WNr. 7096.
In a log book of a Junkers works pilot is recorded his maiden flight of the Ju 52WNr. 7098 coded DD+ZQ on February 9, 1941.

The continuation of this series leads to the WNr. 7105 for the DD+ZX.

Regards
Leo

Seaplanes 24th June 2017 12:55

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
These aircraft come from a series of 231 Ju 52/3mg5e produced by JFM Bernburg. W.Nr. 7081 - 7107 had St.kz. DD+ZA to DD+ZZ.

Norbert Schuchbauer 24th June 2017 15:39

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
I have WNr. 7082 to 7108 for this stammkennzeichenblock of DD+Zx. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Norbert

Tom Willis 24th June 2017 17:19

Re: Luftwaffe Losses Detailed Information
 
Seaplanes is right but there is a break in the Stkz/W/Nr

7081 - 7088 DD+ZA-ZH
7089 D-ASHY
7090 - 7107 DD+ZI-ZZ


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