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kaki3152 6th December 2020 16:11

March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
On March 21,1943. MAW3 reports a 3 PG F-4 missing. No further information is provided. Any ideas as to the identity of the aircraft?

Revi16 6th December 2020 17:45

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
Still searching, http://www.historyofwar.org/air/unit...ed%20To%20.%20


http://www.americanairmuseum.com/unit/345

Alex Smart 7th December 2020 02:07

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
41-2152 wrecked near Peterson Field, CO Mar 21, 1943. Crashed near Ellicott,
CO and was assigned to 10th PRS. Port engine caught fire. Pilot parachuted safely from the
burning plane. his name - Koziupa, ( NMI) Michael.
Perhaps this is the a/c ?

Another loss was a P38F - 43-2073 - Algeria, 1st FG, pilot Fell, Albert W.

ref: USAF Serial Number's

Alex Smart 8th December 2020 17:51

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
There was an 81st FG P-39 that crashed ,the wing tip struck the ground, a/c burned .Pilot 1Lt. John "Jack" Leo Ryan O-661382 was killed .
As far as I can find he is still Mia. "Findagrave" has him with a P-40 though, ( could they have meant a P-400 ? ) but does have 81st FG, and the 81st flew both P-39 & P400 around that time.

Mark R. 11th December 2020 19:44

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
12th AF IntellOps Report No, 132; 1800/21 Mar 43. One of three 3rd Photo Group F-4s dispatched that day for photo recon did not return to base. Tony Woods noted JG 53 claimed three P-38s around noon on this date. All low-altitude kills which suggest they were not F-4s or the F-4 had descended from its normal high altitude run.

kaki3152 11th December 2020 20:55

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
Thanks Mark for the information. I wonder if the pilot returned to his unit later, as there seems to be no 3rd PG MIA for this loss.

Mark R. 12th December 2020 03:48

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
That is my guess. I could find no MIA listing, no POW listing, and no burial for that date and unit. I think the aircraft had a mechanical problem and force landed.

kaki3152 12th December 2020 14:12

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
Thanks again Mark. I have done some research into the the 3rd PG and it is very hard to find information on this unit.

Alex Smart 12th December 2020 15:53

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
Here is a list of some F-4 events.

41-2164 - January 02/43 USA
41-2160 - January 03/43 INDIA
41-2183 - January 07/43 USA
41-2134 - January 08/43 North Africa
41-2163 - January 12/43 INDIA
41-2213 - January 19/43 USA
41-2203 - February 02/43 - July12/43 - USA
41-2215 - February 05/43 USA
41-2154 - February 22/43 USA
41-2181 - March03/43 USA
41-2193 - March 03/43 USA
41-2192 - March 03/43 USA
41-2199 - March04/43 -September 22/43 - USA
41-2212 - March 06/43 USA
41-2368 - March 04/43 USA
41-2381 - March 16/43 USA
41-2152 - March21/43 USA
41-2111 - March22/43 - April 21/43 - USA
41-2182 - April16/43 USA
41-2188 - May10/43 USA
41-2370 - May11/43 USA
41-2177 - May21/43 NGU - MACR 12279
41-2200 - May23/43 USA
41-2137 - June26/43 SWP - MACR 16410
41-2129 - June17/43 - S.Nanur- MACR 203(date ?).
41-2376 - July20/43 - USA
41-2138 - August 04/43 INDIA
41-2210 - August 18/43 USA
41-2167 - October 21/43 USA
41-2371 - November 17/43 - Corsica - MACR 1148
41-2179 - November 18/43 USA
41-2379 - December 09/43 USA
41-2209 - December 12/43 - MACR 1689

Alex Smart 12th December 2020 17:15

Re: March 21,1943 F-4 MIA Tunisia
 
41-2121 - to France.
41-2122 - RAAF as A55-3
41-2128 - April 05/42 - USA
41-2131 - March 24/42 - USA
41-2133 - September 26/42 -March 03/44 USA
41-2144 - June 28/42 - USA
41-2148 - November 18/42 - USA
41-2149 - July 06/42
41-2153 - April 23/42 -USA
41-2155 - June 23/42 - USA
41-2156 - to RAAF on loan.
41-2158 - to RAAF as A55-1
41-2159 -to RAAF as A55-2
41-2161 - May17/42 - USA
41-2162 - January 16/44 - USA
41-2166 - September 18/42 - USA
41-2169 - January 18/45 - INDIA
41-2170 - September 30/42 - USA
41-2171 - October 20/42 - USA
41-2178 - June15/43 - CHINA
41-2185 - April 03/42 - USA
41-2186 - August 20/42 and October 26/43 - USA
41-2187 - August 10/42 - USA
41-2189 - September 13/42 - USA
41-2191 - December 16/42 - USA
41-2194 - January 05/44 - USA
41-2196 - August 14/42 - USA
41-2198 - August 07/42 - USA
41-2201 - September 08/42 - USA
41-2202 - August 08/42 - USA
41-2204 - December 12/43 - INDIA
41-2207 - November 01/42 - USA
41-2208 - November 20/42 - USA
41-2211 - November 06/42 and March 22/43 - USA
41-2214 - September 22/42 and February 05/43 - USA
41-2218 - 3 Killed - USA
41-2373 - July 26/42 - USA
41-2375 - June 22/42 and December 14/42 - USA
41-2377 - September 07/42 - USA


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