Mustangs lost
 

In case you have not seen it elsewhere, a crash happened at Oshkosh yesterday, a P-51D and a recently restored A-36. It may have been a father and son team. Apparently they got too close on landing. One of the pilots was killed.

It is a shame about the death and the loss of both those planes, especially the A-36. Can't be too many of them around. This happens when people start flying "hot" airplanes. Accidents in WWII outnumbered combat losses by 3 or 4 to 1.

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The pilot who died was Gerry Beck, he was in his new build P51-A .

There was a P-51 pilot killed in a landing accident on his first solo.

A T-6 had to put down on a freeway on its way to Oshkosh.

On Monday, a veteran pilot trying to break a speed record en route to Oshkosh was killed when his small, experimental plane crashed into an apartment building and playground in Switzerland.
The pilot, identified as Hans Georg Schmid, a former Swissair pilot, had been trying to break a world record for a solo single-engine flight. He had planned to fly more than 4,970 miles with a C1-D class of plane, aiming to reach his destination in 30 hours.

A stunt plane crashed in Dayton killing its pilot, Jim LeRoy of Billings, Montana.

A bad week for civilian flown military a/c.

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I knew it! When I first heard about the accident a few hours ago, my first thought was that the anti-warbird (vs. morguebird=static museum aircraft) crowd will again start their "how dangerous they are to fly" talk. One flying Mustang is worth a thousand static Mustangs in morgues (=museums).

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No, there is an educated group which is knowledgeable about flying and aviation and thousands of morons who watch pictures.

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Hello,

Another Very sad day.
Loss of life is a greater loss than the aircraft .
The other Mustang that was lost a few days ago was that seen as "Lou IV". Its pilot was also killed.

Alex

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What has this to do with this thread? I assume that you have elevated yourself to the "educated group"? BTW, I don´t care for pictures. But neither do I care about static museum aircraft. I have been thrice to the FinnAF museum and every time I spent more time in their library reading maintenance manuals, pilot manuals and so on than watching those derelict static airframes. Static displays make as much as sense as displays of fine paintings tightly wrapped so one can´t see the the image itself.

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No, I have not elevated myself, I just have an education. It is obvious you have not, judging by your statements. Those aircraft were designed to particular specifications with the then current technical knowledge and with obvious limitations to handling and maintenance. They need a lot of experience in service, and this gets limited due to quantity of pieces in use and increasing costs. Those aircraft were tricky and dangerous then, and they still are. Even the best pilots with the best maintenance get killed and it is simply unavoidable.
I do not mention all the issues with getting an old aircraft to the air as it is another lengthy subject of itself.

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Hello Guy's,

Whoa.

This is not the time or place to argue or spare for points.

Lets forget all of that and just morn the loss of the pilot and his aeroplane.

Alex

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Tricky and dangerous? Then please explain why official British test report describes e.g. the P-47 as very easy and pleasant to fly? Besides, didn´t Charles Lindbergh say that he would gladly give 10 years of his life to be able to enjoy the freedom of flying? Apparently a hiejo de la puta Polak is simply envious that he can´t fly these aircraft.

And are you suggesting that modern aircraft do not come with "obvious limitations on handling and maintenance"?
Or that there are no "tricky and dangerous" aircraft today? You are apparently one of those who seek to destroy the spirit of true aviation and reduce it to a clinical business.

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Apart of being most knowledgeable in every respect, you are extremelly well mannered. For Lewis Hamilton his McLaren could be very pleasant to drive, but an ordinary driver would get killed trying to start it. And the spirit of aviation is not about the art of helpless spinning down to earth.
Read what Alex has written before going four legged.