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ju55dk 20th August 2022 07:54

GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
BAMA has begun to scan these, and allready put up some of them on invenio.
Junker

Steve Coates 20th August 2022 11:02

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
As Jörn has said, it looks like they are working through them chronologically - currently available: RL 2-III/184 and 1173 - 1180.

Andy Mitchell 20th August 2022 20:39

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Hello,

Just followed through on Jorn and Steve's comments and downloaded those that are digitised. Quality is very good - compared to the copies that I have had for a number of years.

Unfortunately, Bd 3 (RL 2-III/1174) & 4 (RL 2-III/1175) which cover June 1940 - Jan 1941 do not appear to have yet been digitised (according to the displays that I am seeing).

Steve Coates 21st August 2022 11:25

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Andy

Agreed. I was too busy checking first and last items digitised to note the small gap in the middle which logically should be rectified shortly.

Steve

edNorth 21st August 2022 14:03

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Mitchell (Post 322243)
Hello,
Just followed through on Jorn and Steve's comments and downloaded those that are digitised. Quality is very good - compared to the copies that I have had for a number of years.
Unfortunately, Bd 3 (RL 2-III/1174) & 4 (RL 2-III/1175) which cover June 1940 - Jan 1941 do not appear to have yet been digitised (according to the displays that I am seeing).

Thanks all. Quality is 100% because these are not copies of the IWM 35 mm rolls, as sold by SELKE (and viewable at BAMA) but scans of the original docs now in Freiburg from the (ex IWM) FD collection returned to Germany. The SELKE 1943 set (IWM) 1185 onwards have many moved or blurry pages, as on on IWM rolls, so I look forward to check them.

Ed

Andy Mitchell 21st August 2022 14:21

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Ed,

Thanks for the info - I am looking forward to the other files even more now if the quality stays the same right the way through.

ju55dk 21st August 2022 14:36

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
The quality is indeed very high and will remain so.
Junker

Peter Cook 21st August 2022 19:50

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Can someone post the URL to access this collection?

Peter

Luc Vervoort 21st August 2022 20:32

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Peter,

First you must register on the website

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/login.xhtml

After registration you have to go to 'Suche' :

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/main.xhtml

In the field 'Signatur' one has to mention the requested file and then 'Suchen'.

Good hunting !



Best regards

Luc

Andy Mitchell 21st August 2022 21:14

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Luc/Peter,

There is no need to register.

Just use the login link that Luc provided and click on "Suche ohne Anmeldung" (Search without Registering).

Then either use the Suche function - enter the file name in full (e.g. RL 2-III/1180) in the "Signatur" field on that page or use the browse facility on the left of the page.

Good luck

Nick Beale 21st August 2022 21:21

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Going on my experience, if you have your browser set to “block pop-ups” then you need to disable that.

Peter Cook 22nd August 2022 12:38

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thanks Luc and Andy, got it now.

Peter

Alfred.MONZAT 22nd August 2022 13:54

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thank you for sharing this.

RL 2-III/184 & 1173 are blurred but the others are fine.

Stig Jarlevik 22nd August 2022 14:50

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 322260)
Going on my experience, if you have your browser set to “block pop-ups” then you need to disable that.

Nick
Shouldn't we have a sticky on this one?

Cheers
Stig

ju55dk 22nd August 2022 14:53

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
"RL 2-III/184 & 1173 are blurred"
They are as sharp as the original.
Junker

FalkeEins 22nd August 2022 14:59

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 322284)
Nick
Shouldn't we have a sticky on this one?

Cheers
Stig

a list of files as they become available at the head of the thread would be helpful perhaps? I have the SELKE docs on CD-R and at the time they were pretty pricey, not to mention that the IWM stuff was marked 'not for reproduction'. Can these digitised files be 'exploited' without restriction - or is that just wishful thinking ?

John Manrho 22nd August 2022 22:13

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Fully agree with Jörn, the scans are as good as the originals. This is much better than my pdf files and also my microfiche ordered 35+ years ago. Very good!

john

hucks216 12th October 2022 14:49

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Two more have been uploaded:

RL 2-III_1195 Bd. 24 - 3. Nov - 2. Dez 43

RL 2-III_1196 Bd. 25 - 3. Dez. 43 - 2. Jan. 44

RudiS 12th October 2022 16:40

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thanks for the update hucks216

Darius 14th October 2022 09:09

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Hi hucks216,

I just want say thank you, too.

Regards

Darius

Andrey Kuznetsov 14th October 2022 12:34

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Three more have been uploaded (Aug.-Oct.43)

Jim P. 14th October 2022 16:27

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
The 3 mentioned by Andrey:

RL 2-III/1192 - RL 2-III/1193 - RL 2-III_1194

John Manrho 14th October 2022 20:54

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
1176 - 1180 are also available.

Andrey Kuznetsov 16th October 2022 12:24

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
After RL 2-III/1173-1196 Invenio listed RL 2-III/752-765 (Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei allen Verbänden 1940-42). Is this duplicate info or are there any differences?

Jaap Woortman 18th October 2022 13:51

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
BArch RL 2-III-1189 till 1191 are now available.

Jaap

RudiS 18th October 2022 16:38

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
And so is RL 2-III/1199

TigerTimon 18th October 2022 16:42

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Great news!

Nick Beale 18th October 2022 18:18

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerTimon (Post 323713)
Great news!

Especially the legibility. They've done a great job.

hucks216 19th October 2022 14:22

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
The tally so far, as of today 19-10-2022.

Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei allen Verbänden

RL 2-III_184 Bd. 1 - 1.Sept.39 - 2.März.40

RL 2-III_1173 Bd. 2 - 3.März - 2.Juni.40

RL 2-III_1176 Bd. 5 - 3.Jan. - 29.Mai.41
RL 2-III_1177 Bd. 6 - 30.Mai - 2.Aug.41
RL 2-III_1178 Bd. 7 - 3.Aug - 2.Nov.41
RL 2-III_1179 Bd. 8 - 3.Nov.41 - 2.Febr.42
RL 2-III_1180 Bd. 9 - 3.Febr - 2.Mai.42

RL 2-III_1189 Bd. 18 - 3.Mai - 2.Jun.43
RL 2-III_1190 Bd. 19 - 3.Jun - 2.Jul.43
RL 2-III_1191 Bd. 20 - 3.Jul - 2.Aug.43
RL 2-III_1192 Bd. 21 - 3.Aug - 2.Sep.43
RL 2-III_1193 Bd. 22 - 3.Sep - 2.Okt.43
RL 2-III_1194 Bd. 23 - 3.Okt - 2.Nov.43
RL 2-III_1195 Bd. 24 - 3.Nov- 2.Dez.43
RL 2-III_1196 Bd. 25 - 3.Dez.43 - 2.Jan.44

Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei den fliegenden Verbänden

RL 2-III_1199 Bd.4 16.März - 1.Apr.45

gogh 19th October 2022 19:52

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
RL10 in 22 are a few Flugbucher example RL10/709 from Emil Claude
in RL6 in 3 presse stelle in 112/117/119/121/122 some lossen

jim norton 22nd October 2022 09:00

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
good news, too! thanks for the pointer!
all the best
jim

Rolfeb 23rd October 2022 10:32

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thank you for updating this thread all the time.
I'm searching for RL 2 III / 844 "Nahaufkl. Gruppen 1 - 102".

Is there any information about that binder when it comes online?
Thanks a lot again
Rolf

Steve Coates 23rd October 2022 13:11

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Rolf

There's no information about when or perhaps more importantly if this will be digitised. I have written to them previously about their scanning schedule and only received a very generic response.

Steve

ju55dk 23rd November 2022 07:51

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
RL 2 III 1188 Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei allen Verbänden Bd. 17 3. Apr. - 2. Mai 1943 is now online.
Junker

Steve Coates 23rd November 2022 10:38

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Jörn

Thanks for the update.

Steve

ju55dk 25th November 2022 09:48

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
RL 2 III 1187 Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei allen Verbänden Bd. 16 3. Mär.-2. Apr. - 1943 also online.
Junker

Andy Mitchell 25th November 2022 10:50

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thanks Junker

RudiS 25th November 2022 12:30

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
Thanks for the pointer.

ARADO001 13th December 2022 15:12

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
RL III 1185 Bd. 14 / 3.1.43 - 2.2.43
RL III 1186 Bd. 15 / 3.2.43 - 2.3.43 both online now.

hucks216 14th December 2022 11:49

Re: GQM Verluste und Unfälle.
 
The tally so far, as of today 14-12-2022.

Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei allen Verbänden

RL 2-III_184 Bd. 1 - 1.Sept.39 - 2.März.40

RL 2-III_1173 Bd. 2 - 3.März - 2.Juni.40

RL 2-III_1176 Bd. 5 - 3.Jan. - 29.Mai.41
RL 2-III_1177 Bd. 6 - 30.Mai - 2.Aug.41
RL 2-III_1178 Bd. 7 - 3.Aug - 2.Nov.41
RL 2-III_1179 Bd. 8 - 3.Nov.41 - 2.Febr.42
RL 2-III_1180 Bd. 9 - 3.Febr - 2.Mai.42

RL 2-III_1185 Bd. 14 - 3.Jan - 2.Febr.43
RL 2-III_1186 Bd. 15 - 3.Febr - 2.Mar.43
RL 2-III_1187 Bd. 16 - 3.März - 2.Apr.43
RL 2-III_1188 Bd. 17 - 3.Apr.-2.Mai 1943
RL 2-III_1189 Bd. 18 - 3.Mai - 2.Jun.43
RL 2-III_1190 Bd. 19 - 3.Jun - 2.Jul.43
RL 2-III_1191 Bd. 20 - 3.Jul - 2.Aug.43
RL 2-III_1192 Bd. 21 - 3.Aug - 2.Sep.43
RL 2-III_1193 Bd. 22 - 3.Sep - 2.Okt.43
RL 2-III_1194 Bd. 23 - 3.Okt - 2.Nov.43
RL 2-III_1195 Bd. 24 - 3.Nov- 2.Dez.43
RL 2-III_1196 Bd. 25 - 3.Dez.43 - 2.Jan.44

Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei den fliegenden Verbänden

RL 2-III_1199 Bd.4 16.März - 1.Apr.45


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