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Fairlop 7th October 2007 12:36

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Hi,

I am trying, without much success, to tie serial number to aircraft individual letter. It is a machine of the 1 Sqn, JX-R, ????7 from October-November 1940 period. Tim Elkington kindly provided picture of this.
Any help will be appreciated.

Regards,
Michal

JohnE 7th October 2007 13:35

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V7377 was coded JX-R, but I don't know when it was with Number One.

/John

Bruce Lander 7th October 2007 16:16

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Hi,

V7377 1 sq from 28.8.40 to 5.3.41 according to "Aircraft For The Few" by M.J.F.Bowyer

Cheers

Bruce Lander

Fairlop 7th October 2007 16:41

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John and Bruce,

Many thanks for valuable info. It is exactly what I needed.

regards,
Michal

Many Souffan 7th October 2007 22:59

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Hello, Hello!!

This picture was taken the 10th november 1940 to mémorise the nomination as S/L of 1 Sqn. of Mark "Hilly" Brown, the departure of "Darkie" Clowes (in white) and the victory of the 8th november of the Free French Jean "Moses" Demozay.

This picture was taken in front the new mount of "Hilly" brown the Hurricane V7377 JX.R.

From the L to R; "Hilly" Brown, the Czech Sgt A. Zavoral, the P/O Hancock, the Czech, Sgt J. Stefan, "Darkie" Clowes, "Moses" Demozay, P/O JFD Elkington and the P/O Chetham.

timothy 8th October 2007 09:39

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Live & learn!!

Where did you get all that from, Many??

= Tim

PS Thought I'd better mention that although, in true British fashion, where everything stops for tea, we did take a very long time out for the MoD photo-shoot, we still packed in some operational stuff!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...RAF2/10nov.jpg

Many Souffan 8th October 2007 13:28

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Hello

Some years ago I have written a big article about "Moses" Demozay (which will become a book in some months) and in his collection there was this photo, given by Pilkington with all infos.

I also have written an article about "Cobber" Kain of 73 Sqn. The 1 & 73 but also a part of 501 belonged to 67 Wing in France. I spent many, many hours to study these units and this period.

At what pilot belonged this page of Log Book ? Very interesting.

timothy 8th October 2007 13:34

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Pilkington? Elkington??

Whose book? Mine, of course!! = Tim

Many Souffan 8th October 2007 13:50

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Sorry, of course JFD Elkington, naturally.

Pilkington was with Cobber kain at the 73 Sqn in France forming with 1 & a part of 501 sqn. the 67 Wing.

Many Souffan 8th October 2007 14:32

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Hello Timothy.

I am confused that I didn't reconize you.

You are JFD Elkington, of course, I am sorry.

Is it possible to ask some questions (off board) about 1 Sqn. and in particular Moses Demozay and another french pilot who was at (I think) at 197 Sqn. his name is Bokobza I believe he had had an accident in 1943.

Thank you for all.

timothy 8th October 2007 14:51

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Of course - but I will have ilittle to offer, I'm afraid.

Timothy? I have always been Tim, but the forum would not accept that as my name. JFD? What a waste!! Just as well - there are already 2 other Johns, & 2 other 'J's in the family.

= Tim

Fairlop 8th October 2007 20:12

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Bruce, it is possible to note complete service carrer of V7377 ?
Many, thanks for the picture detail. There is a few other snapshots from that day and that event.

Michal

Many Souffan 8th October 2007 22:02

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Hello Fairlop.

Thank you.

I know there are others photos, I am looking for one of them taken by the front with 4 pilots on the left wing of the Hurricane.

If you have some of these clichés, it would be glad for me

Many Souffan 8th October 2007 22:04

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Hello Tim

Thank you

I will try to write you off board.

Thank you again.

timothy 9th October 2007 09:36

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Not this one, Many??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...BoysNo1Sqn.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...AF2/no1sqn.jpg

= Tim

Bernard 9th October 2007 10:54

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Bonjour Many,

Please why do you write only a part of No 501 Squadron was attached to 67th Fighter Wing Servicing Unit. According to my files, the full unit was ?

Merci.

Bernard.

Chris Thomas 9th October 2007 10:58

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Plt Off R.Bokobza killed in crash of 197 Sqn Typhoon DN313, 4 miles south of East Fortune, 14 February 1943.

Many Souffan 9th October 2007 10:59

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Hello Tim.

It is exactly this photo I am looking for. I don't understand why Demozay in his file has kept the first one and not this one. it seem's he was very close with "Kut".

Many Souffan 9th October 2007 11:01

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Bonjour Bernard

If I remember well, at the beginning there only one flight of 501 sqn but at the beginning of the retreat it was the full squadron.

Thank you

Bernard 9th October 2007 11:20

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Many,

The Whole No 501 Squadron landed at Bétheniville on the 10th of may 1940 at 16h10 as a reinforcment to 67th Wing.

A bientôt.

Bernard.

timothy 9th October 2007 13:00

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Chris - where did Bokobza come in?

I have no record of him??

= Tim

Many Souffan 9th October 2007 13:27

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Thank you Chris.

If you have more infos, I will be happy to have it.

It is incredible, but there is nothing written about him in France.

I met his brother, 2 years ago near Dijon, he has nothing about him, the only thing he was in England as pilot. he doesn't know if he was Free French or he was enlisted directly in the RAF.

How to see the future if you don't keep the memory of the past....

Thank you again Chris.

timothy 9th October 2007 14:34

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So when did he join the squadron?

Franek Grabowski 9th October 2007 15:16

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197 Squadron site has entry Sgt R Bokobza, 11/42 killed 14/2/43.

Chris Thomas 9th October 2007 15:53

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I'm afraid I can't add any more to what Franek has stated.

timothy 9th October 2007 18:40

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Thanks, Chris - found him - & that he was a P/O in my time. See my PM.

= Tim

Many Souffan 9th October 2007 20:41

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Do you think, if it will be possible to find a photograph of R. Bokobza?

timothy 9th October 2007 21:22

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Only from a 1cm thumbnail in Jimmy Kyle's Typhoon Tale.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../RAF2/boko.jpg

PS I note that 197 Sqn's site has Bokobza as both Sgt & Flg Off. I took the Plt Off from Jimmy Kyle's book.


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