Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Hi guys

Can anyone throw any light on the Luftwaffe unit involved? Even better, any details of the actual aircraft/crew?

Cheers
Brian

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

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Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Thanks Jim!

I've had a copy for years - infact, I provided much of the information!

Incidentally, the incident is not recorded!

Best wishes
Brian

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Doesn't appear in the Gen.Qu. losses either.

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Hi Jim

I've obviously confused you! The Do18 shot down the Walrus - I'm looking for the unit of the Do18 etc.

Cheers
Brian

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Brian,

It seems that a Ju88C of the Zerstörerstaffel/KG30 shot down a Walrus of 700 Squadron (on board HMS Suffolk) off Stavanger, Norway.
At least, if that's the geographical area you're looking for.....

One other problem. According following link, this was on 17.4.40:
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg...r-verluste.htm

Another Ju88 vs. Walrus encounter or has someone a wrong date?

Regards,

Leendert

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Hi Leendert

Not the same animal!

Cheers all the same
Brian

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

What is your source for this alleged incident? Nothing is mentioned in the KTB's from the Seefliegerunits, other than a Do 18 reporting beeing attcked, by unknown aircraft and had to make an emergency-landing!!!

Junker

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Hello Brian,

Well with the help of Air Brits Book FAA Aircraft 1939 to 1945 and the weblink

http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php

Walrus L2316
All crew killed.
700 Sqdn FTR A/S patrol Fair Isle Channel with enemy a/c in the vicinity. A/c Cat W 24-4-1940.
Crew were -
MidShipman (A) Paul L. Furber - MPK
Act P/O(A) Cyril L. Smethers Killed
Naval Airman 1st Class Charles E. Adams - MPK

From others Naval (A) lost this date -
Lt. Victor C. Marryat RM killed - Gladiator N2301
Flying Formation Training , dived into ground 3miles SW of Wilton near Salisbury.

Lt. Arthur A. Pardoe - MPK
L A Leslie M. Lloyd - MIA
Swordfish L2790
On operation "DX" attack on Vaernes a/f - ditched off Norwegian Coast on return.
SubLt(A) Sydney Lyver - Killed.

Swordfish L2852 TTU HMS Daedalus
Hit sea in runner torpedo attack on "Royal Daffodil 7 miles NW of Troon.

Hope all this is of use.

Alex

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Brian,

I was too focused on "Walrus" that I forgot that your question was in relation to a Do-18!

Anyways, the lost Walrus of 24-4-1940 is mentioned on this website as well: http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-4004-13APR04.htm

No mentioning is made here of being shot down, but it adds that it operated from the cruiser HMS Southampton.

Regards,

Leendert

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

On 24. April 1940 the Luftwaffe had a total of five Staffeln equipped with Do 18's to its disposal. All of them were in Kü.Fl.Gr.406 subordinated to Führer der Seeluftstreitkräfte West (F.d.L. West). 2./406, 3./406 and 2./906 were located at Hörnum and 1./106 with 1./406 in Rantum. The last two Staffeln often used Hörnum as forward base for operations.
On 24.04.40 the KTB of F.d.L. West give the following details:
06.14 - 06.36 hours five Do 18's of 3./406 Hörnum took off for recce in the Skarerrak area.
06.55-08.02 ten Do 18's of 2./106 and 1./406 took off from Hörnum for recce in Seegebiet (sea area) "A".
At 10.43 aircraft K6+GH of 1./406 reported being attacked by an enemy aircraft in area 4128. 20 minutes later the same aircraft reported "Carrying out intended mission".
Apparently, all aircraft came safely back to base. No loss or claims of enemy aircraft indicated.

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

OK guys - let's recap

The Walrus was L2316 lost on 24 April as noted by Alex.

As far as I am aware it was flying from Hatston on this occasion and not from HMS Southampton.

It FTR from a recce off Fair Isle and was believed to have been shot down by a Do18 reported (by whom?) to have been in the area. Could this have been the Do18 reported by Junker as having carried out an emergency landing following combat on 24th? More details please, Junker.

I note that two Do18s from 2/406 carried out emergency landings next day (25th) but this only confuses the issue!

Over to the more knowledgeable!

Cheers
Brian

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

According the Naval History website HMS Jupiter was sent out at 0800 on 24 April 1940 to search for the Walrus. Loss time therefore prior to that or perhaps even night before?
Walrus was of HMS Southampton, but indeed operated from RNAS Hatston.

Regards,
Leendert

Re: Do18 shot down Walrus 24 April 1940
 

Seaplanes and I posted at almost the same time!

So, now what have we? With Leendert's latest, the times don't seem to coincide to suggest that the Walrus and Do18 K6+GH would have clashed! Is Area 4128 anywhere near Fair Isle?

Any ideas?

Cheers
Brian