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edwest 27th March 2008 00:11

Photos 3-26
 
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Usual disclaimer,
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edwest 27th March 2008 04:24

Re: Photos 3-26
 
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Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Dan O'Connell 27th March 2008 07:51

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Seems like the 262 photos have just disappeared :-(

ChrisS 28th March 2008 00:52

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Hi All

Did anybody get copies of those 262's?? If so would somebody PM me and I'll send my addy.:)

Many thanks in advance!

Chris

Nick Beale 28th March 2008 09:13

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell (Post 62527)
Seems like the 262 photos have just disappeared :-(

And such a poorly documented aircraft as well!

Kari Lumppio 28th March 2008 09:28

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Hello!

About the Ju 88 A4 RF+ON on these photos:

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Looks like it has full Eastern Front markings in addition to the instrument trainer bands (yellow also under wing tips).

Any ideas what the unit of this plane would have been? KG 101??



Cheers,
Kari

edNorth 28th March 2008 10:50

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Hello all,

First appears as A-4 RF+ON (White ? ´7´ ) - W.Nr. 6614 - but the latter appears to have ´25´ on fin (but photo is rather blurry). I have no match for accident of 6614 in period January 1943 to September 1944 (Schulen losses) but damage may have been less than 10% (but one broken wing and needing two new engines / props may have resulted in damage of at least 15 - 20%).

cheers
ed

Dan O'Connell 28th March 2008 10:58

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 62579)
And such a poorly documented aircraft as well!

I missed something.......

I was just makeing a statement that 262 photos have been very scarce of late. Did I miss one ? Usually Ed notes a 262 photo, or anything of 262 significance.

Nick Beale 28th March 2008 11:08

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell (Post 62591)
I missed something.......

Did I miss one? Usually Ed notes a 262 photo.

Maybe you did: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320232696334

Is that a smashed 262 fuselage lying on the ground beside the Ar 96?

The vendor's caption "WWII German FW-190 and ME-109 Graveyard" is, as usual, slightly misleading!

Kari Lumppio 28th March 2008 11:09

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kari Lumppio (Post 62581)
Hello!

About the Ju 88 A4 RF+ON on these photos...
Any ideas what the unit of this plane would have been? KG 101??

Hello!

Additional piece of information surfaced.

RF+ON has apparently been logged in Herbert Riedel's Flugbuch. Unit was FFS (C) 9 and date May 6th, 1943. According Michael Holm's site the unit was based at Pretzsch which is some 200 km SW of Berlin. This leaves the Eastern Front markings without explanation.

Would RF+ON have been transferred to KG 101? This was training unit and based at Pskov for May to August 1943. It may have participated on missions too. During Summer 1943 Luftflotte 1 had practically no bombers as they were transferred to central sector of Eastern Front (Lfl 6 area).


Thanks for responses,
Kari

Dan O'Connell 28th March 2008 11:20

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 62594)
Maybe you did: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320232696334

Is that a smashed 262 fuselage lying on the ground beside the Ar 96?

The vendor's caption "WWII German FW-190 and ME-109 Graveyard" is, as usual, slightly misleading!


Arrghhh, I looked at all the posted photos earlier, thinking I had missed one. I saw that one but nothing jumped out at me as a 262, but now all I get is a "Page unavailable".

Nick Beale 28th March 2008 11:39

Re: Photos 3-26
 
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The link from Ed's second posting still works so it must be a problem from when I copied the URL into my post. But anyway, I've attached the photo here.

Dan O'Connell 28th March 2008 11:52

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 62598)
The link from Ed's second posting still works so it must be a problem from when I copied the URL into my post. But anyway, I've attached the photo here.

OMG, it's not just one, but TWO 262's. look farther down the road.

Any idea of location? They are new to me!


Ooops, the one down the road may be a 190, it's awful hard to tell.

Nick Beale 28th March 2008 12:01

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell (Post 62599)
OMG, it's not just one, but TWO 262's. look farther down the road.

Any idea of location? They are new to me!

Dan, try to breathe slowly and deeply!

No idea of a location, the pencilled caption on the reverse just says "wrecked German planes."

Dan O'Connell 28th March 2008 12:05

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 62602)
Dan, try to breathe slowly and deeply!

No idea of a location, the pencilled caption on the reverse just says "wrecked German planes."


LMAO, thanks Nick, I don't get treats like this every day. Totally unknown location.

S Sheflin 28th March 2008 15:22

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Hey guys,

That last photo was taken at Fürth. In the background is the fuselage of Fw 190 A “8+ White” up on its nose; the one with JG 301's reversed RV bands that I first published in AIRFOIL #3, page 32. This is a great shot because it is from the back side of the others I have seen.

Steve Sheflin

F19Gladiator 28th March 2008 15:24

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Is it a set of Me 262 wings to the left of the road?
Regards,
Goran

Von Alles 28th March 2008 18:27

Re: Photos 3-26
 
The Ar 96 seems to have two colored bands on the rear fuselage : if it is true, JG 301 or JG 7 ?

Von Alles

S Sheflin 28th March 2008 19:22

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Von Alles,

I'll dig out my Fürth color slides and confirm the bands on Ar 96 “56+ I Yellow.” If I remember correctly, however, I think it's just a single band?

Steve Sheflin

Dan O'Connell 29th March 2008 01:41

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 62617)
Hey guys,

That last photo was taken at Fürth. In the background is the fuselage of Fw 190 A “8+ White” up on its nose; the one with JG 301's reversed RV bands that I first published in AIRFOIL #3, page 32. This is a great shot because it is from the back side of the others I have seen.

Steve Sheflin

Thanks Steve!

Von Alles 29th March 2008 09:29

Re: Photos 3-26
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 62641)
Von Alles,

I'll dig out my Fürth color slides and confirm the bands on Ar 96 “56+ I Yellow.” If I remember correctly, however, I think it's just a single band?

Steve Sheflin

Thank you Steve

Von Alles


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