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Roger Gaemperle 6th June 2008 07:05

Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Hello,

Is anything known about Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408? I got the data plate of this Me 410 and was wondering if its history is known.

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

George Hopp 6th June 2008 09:36

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Steve Polyak also asked about the same aircraft on the LEMB site. No info on 710 408 was gleaned because it seems to fall outside the accepted range of Me 410 W.Nrs. The highest number below 710 408 ending at 710 406.

Possibly the thought that W.Nr. 710 406 was the highest number in the series of B-2/U4s was caused by the following: on 17 July 1944, Dornier sent out a message giving the numbers of ca. 50 B-2/U4s from 710 309 to 710 406 and stating that while it had harmonized the cannon of these aircraft to 900 or 1000 meters, they should now be harmonized to 800 meters. But, as more than 100 B-2/U4s were built or modified by Dornier, and the company was still churning them out in August, there was obviously at least one more Dornier production series that has not yet been unearthed. And it sounds like 710 408 is in that missing series.

Would it be possible for you to scan that data plate so we can see the actual W.Nr. and perhaps other info on this aircraft? It would really be appreciated.

All the best,
George

Andy Saunders 6th June 2008 11:06

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Here is a scan of the plate Roger mentioned.

Peter Kassak 6th June 2008 11:45

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
could it be fake?
I did not see such a specific version description on a plane...but I did not see a lot of things:) does it originate from excavation???

Andy Saunders 6th June 2008 13:17

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Certainly not a fake, I can assure you! And not from excavation, either.

The plate originated from the collection of a former RAF Officer, presumably Intelligence, who kept this plate along with hundreds of others as his own war souvenirs.

Peter Kassak 6th June 2008 13:24

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
sorry did not wanna interfere....
So the source is clear...and now, maybe it was just pre-prepared item...to wait for next a/c to go down from manufacturing line? Not even ordered a/c blocks, but already printed plates???
could this happen?

Roger Gaemperle 6th June 2008 21:13

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Hello George,

Thanks a lot for the information! I have checked LEMB. Very interesting. So, it seems at least to proof that there is a production series that is not documented yet.

Is there no accident report with a Me 410 B-2/U4 above 710406?

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

ArtieBob 6th June 2008 23:40

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
IIRC, I have seen the detailed subtype information on other Messeschmitt plates. Yes, there is loss reporting of Me 410 above "408" in the 710xxx series.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

George Hopp 7th June 2008 01:35

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Thank you, Andy, for that scan of the 710 408 maker's plate. Can you read the 3 letters at the bottom of the plate, that ID the maker?

Roger, I'm not certain what Artie has in the way of crash reports on W.Nrs. beyond 710 408, but I have two incident reports:
710 473 - 18 Jul 44, test of new locking unit for the landing gear. (From Mankau/Petrick).
710 464 - Also 18 Jul 44, test of newly produced Me 410B with MK 103 installation by Tarnewitz. (From series of reports on development of the MK 103 installation for the Me 410). Hope this helps.

Incidently, Jerry Crandall has asked me to write a book on the Me 210/410 series, and I would really appreciate any notes on the use of the Me 410 in its anti-bomber role. Thanks.

All the best,
George

Andreas Brekken 7th June 2008 10:50

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Hi

I have incident reports for Me 410's with 7104xx series well above 710408

Regards,
Andreas B

robert_schulte 7th June 2008 13:12

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Hi all,
there is a photo of a Me 410 B-2/U4, W.Nr. 710458, captured at the Autobahn Munich in May 1945 in the Mankau/Petrick book (page 307 of the German edition).
Regards
Robert

George Hopp 7th June 2008 19:38

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Thanks for that photo, Robert. I had seen the photo before but from closer to full forward and so never saw the number. That's much appreciated! This also shows that the series 710 444 - 710 473 included at least some U4s. Thanks again!
All the best,
George

Andy Saunders 7th June 2008 21:03

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
George

The letters are I B O.

Andy

George Hopp 8th June 2008 00:00

Re: Me 410 B-2/U4 WNr 710408
 
Hmm, that's really interesting, Andy, because the book of constructors' codes that I got from Pawlas has no "Is". Thanks anyway. I imagine that the code is for Dornier Werke Munchen, since they seem to have produced all the B-2/U4s, but it would have been nice to have it confirmed.


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