Me 110 from 7./NJG3 crash in Belgium
 

On 25/07/1942 Me Bf-110 werknumber 3212 from 7./NJG3 hit a tree and crashed near Cul-des-Sarts ( Belgium ) One of the crew was Ofw Neuhaus Walter ( KIA ).Who was the other and what happened with him ?

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Morning Alain,

The other crewmember was Uffz. Karl Hungerland, also kia. But according to M.BALLS book 'Deutsche Nachtjagd - Personalverluste in Ausbildung und Einsatz' they crashed on the 23rd?
Both are buried at Fort-de-Malmaison in France. Hungerland (°31/1/20-Kassel) at bl.5,ro.22,gr.1010 & Neuhaus (°10/2/14-Herne) at bl.5,ro.22,gr.1009, also on the date of 23/7/1942. Hope this will help you. Best regards,

Dirk

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Thanks Dirk

Alain

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Thread resurrection time - just in the process of buying Walter Neuhaus's Flugbuch, which records 447 flights and 33 Feindflug.

I've only got limited information from the seller but he claimed Walter hit a balloon barrage over Cul de Court on the 23rd July (not 25th). He also mentioned he was a pre-war Lufthansa pilot, the aircraft registration is D5+IR apparently. I'll put some scans up when I get the Flugbuch in my hands.

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picture of Uffz. Karl Hungerland https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...8#post-1689164

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Thank you very much

Alain57

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Hi Siko,

I hope you get Neuhaus's Fb.

It appears it was not a barrage balloon but a balloon sent by UK in order to bother the Germans, carrying incendiaries, leaflets, etc.
At that moment, several balloons were quoted in Gendarmerie reports. It is said Neuhaus was tasked with shooting at those embarassing balloons. It seems he flew so low that he collided with some trees at Cul-des-Sarts, a forested area, close to Belgian-French border.

I would appreciate very much a copy of that page of the Fb, just for my personal interest/curiosity.

Best regards

ClinA-78

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Hi Clin,

I have got Neuhaus's Flugbuch, but it sadly does not record any operational flying and only covers his training with NJG3. I assume he updated it once a month or something like that as unfortunately it ends a week or so before the accident.

I think this is fairly normal and another Flugbuch in my collection ends a month before his loss too. From my own time as an RAF pilot I always enjoyed filling in my logbook and did so after every flight, but was fairly unusual (!) and most of my colleagues only did so on a monthly basis, sitting with piles of authorisation sheets at the end of the month desperately trying to catch up!

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Thanks anyway!

ClinA-78

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The UK sent a balloon with incendiaries? Do you have more details?

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Ed, Google "Operation Outward" for British balloons. Regards, Leendert

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Thank you Leendert.

Best,
Ed

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Many of them, especially in '41-'42.

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Fascinating thread - thanks for all the details about the balloons. I knew a little bit about them from a podcast which mentioned them but never knew that was what killed Neuhaus and Hungerland. Puts a pretty unique spin on his Flugbuch now I guess!

Minor point but I should clarify from my earlier post where I mention 33 Feindflug - that is what the seller told me. Sadly it proved to be 33 "Einsatz" which were clearly training missions, to be fair to the seller a JG77 Flugbuch I own has every operational mission recorded as an "Einsatz" so there is potential for some confusion.

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Portrait der Nachtjagd Pilot Ofw. Walter Neuhaus der 4./NJG1, gefallen am 23. Juli 1942 beim 7./NJG3, Absturz mit Bf 110 C-4 "D5+IR" (Werknr. 3212) laut Volksbund in "Cul des Courts" = Cul-des-Sarts, bei Couvin, Belgien. https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...2#post-1728240

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Hi Clin, where did you get this info?
Do you know other inteception attempts/shot downs of incendiary balloons?
Thanks

Temistocle

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From the Dutch author D. Breedijk (he wrote an online document about local events near Oldebroek, the Netherlands: https://www.oldebroek4045.nl/boek%20dickbreedijk.htm)


May 11, 1943 at 6.15 am a rubber balloon the size of a normal room was found in Hattemerbroek.